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From: allen@sulaco.UUCP (Allen Gwinn)
Newsgroups: news.groups,news.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Proposal for comp.security/alt.security
Summary: I volunteer!
Message-ID: <329@sulaco.UUCP>
Date: 30 Oct 88 18:29:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: sulaco.329
References: <2347@isis.UUCP> <22460@tis.llnl.gov> <1147@unisec.usi.com>
Organization: SULACO, Dallas, TX
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In article <1147@unisec.usi.com>, dpw@unisec.usi.com (Darryl P. Wagoner) writes:
> In article <22460@tis.llnl.gov> mcb@tis.llnl.gov (Michael C. Berch) writes:

  [...about reviving his security mailing list...]

> ~...limiting the membership to admins of "large sites", and
> ~so forth.

> Here, here!  I have two small systems and do a lot of security work.
> I hope to end up doing a B2 secure Unix.  Yet, I would be denied
> access to a mailing list that would make my job easier.  

I echo that sentiment!  People that manage smaller sites are just as
interested in security as are people who manage larger sites.  To
propose excluding them is ridiculous.

> This method of dissemination of information about security has the
> negative effect of keeping the small SA's in the dark about security
> while only add a small amount of security to the large sites.  We
> all know that crackers will have most of the information already.

> I say lets have a vote on it.  I will even collect them.  And post 
> the results.  Let stop this method of getting security information
> via an elite mailing list.

Being extremely interested in security aspects of Unix, I think a
newsgroup to discuss these issues in would be highly interesting.
By exposing (and publicizing) security problems, you force manufacturers
and OEM's to deal with the matter and not just sweep it under the
rug.

If the group idea doesn't go thru, I would be happy to create a 
security mailing list on this system to pass information back and
forth.  Is there any interest in this?

-- 
Allen Gwinn  ...sulaco!allen        Disclaimer: The facts stated are my own.
"Remember, facts are stupid things." - Brad Schoening (uiucdcs!schoenin)