Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ncrlnk!ncrcae!ece-csc!ncsuvx!gatech!bloom-beacon!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!husc6!endor!reiter From: reiter@endor.harvard.edu (Ehud Reiter) Newsgroups: news.sysadmin Subject: Virus: I blame the vendors Message-ID: <563@husc6.harvard.edu> Date: 9 Nov 88 14:07:45 GMT Sender: news@husc6.harvard.edu Reply-To: reiter@harvard.harvard.edu (Ehud Reiter) Organization: Aiken Computation Lab Harvard, Cambridge, MA Lines: 23 I think the vendors bear the lion's share of guilt in this affair. Why the hell didn't Sun and friends fix these security holes ages ago? I especially blame Sun, since a) I gather DEC had at least fixed the Sendmail/debug hole in ULTRIX b) Sun has been making a fuss about the snazzy new high-tech security features in 4.0. I wonder how many man-years those represent? I wonder how many man-hours (man-minutes?) it would have taken to fix the Sendmail distribution? My personal definition of `hacker': someone who loves writing snazzy new code but refuses to do code maintanance. A few months ago, I recommended to a friend that he buy a Sun for his lab. If I was asked the same question today, I doubt I would make the same recommendation, and I probably would suggest that he think twice about getting any UNIX workstation, since my unfortunate gut feeling is that most other UNIX vendors are just as irresponsible as Sun. If UNIX is going to start prospering in the real world (which had better happen, because otherwise IBM and DEC won't have any competition), then UNIX vendors are going to have to start showing a modicum of real-world responsibility about boring little details like maintanance and fixing security holes. Ehud Reiter reiter@harvard (ARPA,BITNET,UUCP) reiter@harvard.harvard.EDU (new ARPA)