Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!husc6!purdue!spaf From: spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford) Newsgroups: news.sysadmin Subject: Re: Getting Complacent Message-ID: <5366@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> Date: 10 Nov 88 02:33:19 GMT References: <44439@beno.seismo.CSS.GOV> <16742@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Sender: news@cs.purdue.EDU Reply-To: spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford) Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University Lines: 28 In article <16742@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (Obnoxious Math Grad Student) writes: >In article <44439@beno.seismo.CSS.GOV>, rick@seismo (Rick Adams) writes: >>Does that make it less of a crime? > >Who cares? Why is it SO IMPORTANT to have the MORAL HIGH GROUND? So >that you can feel justified about being smug and complacent re security? 1) Rick (and I and others) are hardly smug and complacent about security. We're working on it, and have been working on it, for quite some time, although that is not our primary job. Just because we don't tell you and the Usenet about it doesn't mean we aren't acting on it. In fact, considering your behavioral aspects, not telling you about anything is an important part of a good security program. 2) Some of us are concerned about ethical issues in addition to technical issues. Too many people are not concerned with ethics, professionalism, liability, et. al. and we see technology as not providing all the answers to important questions. That you are unconcerned with ethics does not seem surprising to many of us. 3) Please, please insult Indiana some more -- it makes you appear so terribly clever and humorous. You're so cute when you're rabid. -- Gene Spafford NSF/Purdue/U of Florida Software Engineering Research Center, Dept. of Computer Sciences, Purdue University, W. Lafayette IN 47907-2004 Internet: spaf@cs.purdue.edu uucp: ...!{decwrl,gatech,ucbvax}!purdue!spaf