Xref: utzoo comp.unix.wizards:12299 news.sysadmin:1331 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ncrlnk!ncrcae!hubcap!gatech!ulysses!ggs From: ggs@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com (Griff Smith) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards,news.sysadmin Subject: Re: sexist language Message-ID: <10837@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com> Date: 10 Nov 88 22:24:49 GMT References: <1460@ucsfcca.ucsf.edu> <698@packard.UUCP> <1988Nov9.200939.6069@utzoo.uucp> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 30 In article <1988Nov9.200939.6069@utzoo.uucp>, henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: > In article <698@packard.UUCP> shz@packard.UUCP writes: > >Just a minor correction: Substitute "staff" for each occurrence of "man" > >in the below fragment, yielding "staff-hours", "staff-weeks" and > >"staff-years". > > (I have no quarrel with people who prefer to avoid the use of masculine > words as generic forms, provided that readability does not suffer, but > criticizing people for using legitimate English is ridiculous.) > -- > The Earth is our mother. | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology > Our nine months are up. |uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu This has gotten a bit out of context. The original complaint was from a Bell Labs employee who was reacting to company policy; in my branch of the Labs we are corrected by our supervision whenever we refer to generic employees with masculine words. If I remember correctly, the first response to that complaint came from another AT&T employee who has either missed the required Affirmative Action sessions or taken inoculations against them. I think the first posting was a sincere attempt to point out that the worm fighters weren't just males. I suspect the second one was more a rejection of company policy than a complaint about the posting. We're not criticizing people for using conventional English, we're criticizing the convention. This is already too much noise for a technical group; further arguments off-line please. -- Griff Smith AT&T (Bell Laboratories), Murray Hill Phone: 1-201-582-7736 UUCP: {most AT&T sites}!ulysses!ggs Internet: ggs@ulysses.att.com