Xref: utzoo rec.audio:8794 sci.electronics:4182 Path: utzoo!yunexus!geac!syntron!jtsv16!uunet!tank!ncar!boulder!sunybcs!rutgers!apple!bionet!agate!pasteur!ames!coherent!dplatt From: dplatt@coherent.com (Dave Platt) Newsgroups: rec.audio,sci.electronics Subject: Re: Extracting Mono from Stereo Keywords: mono stereo signal processing Message-ID: <12922@coherent.com> Date: 28 Oct 88 18:34:44 GMT Article-I.D.: coherent.12922 References: <341@ivucsb.UUCP> <343@ivucsb.UUCP> <3836@ncrcae.Columbia.NCR.COM> <785@mplvax.nosc.MIL> <4115@teklds.TEK.COM> <13393@cisunx.UU Reply-To: dplatt@coherent.com (Dave Platt) Distribution: rec Organization: Coherent Thought Inc., Palo Alto CA Lines: 49 In article <13393@cisunx.UUCP> rm@unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu (Mingo) writes: > On the back of one of Brian Eno's "Ambient" albums, he described his > "ambient" speaker setup, which was achieved by adding a third speaker > in back of the listener, which was connected to one terminal of the > right speaker and one terminal of the left speaker. Wouldn't the third > channel have only the part of the signal that was common to right and > left? Actually, it will have the portion of the signal that's different... the ambient speaker is usually connected between the "hot" terminals of the two front-channel speakers. The ambient speaker will produce L-R, or R-L, depending on whether you've hooked the "hot" side of the ambient speaker to the left or right main speaker. This system was popularized some years ago by Dave Hafler, I believe... he was the originator of the Dynaco component line, and referred to this ambient-extraction system as "Dynaquad". A full Dynaquad system consisted of the two front speakers (connected normally), and one or two smaller rear-channel speakers connected between the "hot" terminals of the front-channel terminals of the amplifier. A single rear-channel speaker can be connected with either polarity. If two rear-channel speakers are used, they are connected in series with their "-" terminals wired together; each one's "+" terminal is connected to the corresponding "+" terminal of the front channel. So, the left-rear ambient speaker produces L-R, and the right-rear produces R-L. One additional tweak to this setup is to have a small "center-channel" speaker, whose "-" terminal is connected to the amplifier "-", and whose "+" terminal is connected to _both_ L and R "+" terminals via a pair of resistors. This speaker thus receives an L+R mix signal at a low volume level, and helps "stabilize" the soundstage and gives better positioning clues for voices and instruments located at the center of the soundstage. Dynaquad isn't a particularly sophisticated system; it doesn't do the sophisticated sound-stage processing that today's digital processors are capable of. However, it works surprisingly well on well-recorded live material. It's inexpensive, too... all you need is two small speakers for the rear channel, some wire, and an L-pad to control the ambient-speaker volume level. Note for those who are thinking of trying DynaQuad: make sure that your amplifier/receiver uses a "common ground" system, in which the "+" outputs are driven with the same polarity and the "-" outputs are held at the same (ground) potential. Bridged amps, amps that swing both "+" and "-" outputs, and similar setups may not work with this system... check your owner's manual to see if there are any warnings about doing this sort of thing.