Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!labrea!rutgers!iuvax!silver!commgrp From: commgrp@silver.bacs.indiana.edu Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Distance measuring using lasers Message-ID: <7200019@silver> Date: 4 Nov 88 17:37:00 GMT References: <113@ericom.ericsson.se> Organization: Indiana University CSCI, Bloomington Lines: 57 Nf-ID: #R:ericom.ericsson.se:-11300:silver:7200019:000:2342 Nf-From: silver.bacs.indiana.edu!commgrp Nov 4 12:37:00 1988 >How to measure distance with lasers? >I've been thinking a lot about the problem, and my conclution is: > It's impossible (at least with submillimeter accuracy) >Still it's done. And it's done by cheap devices... >SNAIL: ERICSSON TELECOM Vox humana: (+46) 8 - 719 62 52 > Bjoern Fahller Fax machina: (+46) 8 - 740 28 34 > KK/ETX/TT/MLG > S-126 25 STOCKHOLM "Inside every problem, there are at least > SWEDEN two other problems, struggling to get out" Light travels about one foot per nanosecond, so a laser rangefinder with a 1' resolution would need a 500-MHz timebase if it works by measuring the time it takes for the light to return from the target. Laser rangefinders which measures in micro-millimeters over ranges of 100m or less use optical interferometry techniques. For longer distances, as in surveying, one way to do it precisely without direct counting is the same principle used in time-domain reflectometers for inspecting transmission lines. It's a sampling technique, a form of correlation; simple concept but hard to describe-- I saw a good explanation in the instruction book for a Tektronix sampling oscilloscope. Another way to do it, used in some surveying instruments, is to transmit a continuous light beam from a solid-state laser (infrared), which is modulated with a sinewave RF carrier having precisely controlled frequency, say, 10 MHz, which has a wavelength of 30 meters. The receiver has a phase detector which compares outgoing and incoming phase of the carrier. The same solution occurs each wavelength, so the instrument uses other frequencies to solve the ambiguity. It's all taken care of by the on-board computer, which measures the distance several times and indicates an error if the variance is too great (which could be caused by target movement, air turbulence, etc.). Before lasers and solid-state stuff, there were vacuum-tube microwave devices for measuring long distances in surveying. They were manually- operated, some with internal oscilloscopes. A transponder was placed at the distant point. Operation was tedious, followed by laborious mathematical data reduction (but much faster and easier than measuring several miles with a tape). -- Frank Reid reid@gold.bacs.indiana.edu PZZ