Xref: utzoo sci.space:8158 sci.space.shuttle:1895 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!apple!bionet!agate!helios.ee.lbl.gov!lll-tis!oodis01!uplherc!esunix!bpendlet From: bpendlet@esunix.UUCP (Bob Pendleton) Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.space.shuttle Subject: Re: Stopping Space and Light Pollution. Message-ID: <1068@esunix.UUCP> Date: 8 Nov 88 21:27:40 GMT References: <809@cmx.npac.syr.edu> Organization: Evans & Sutherland, Salt Lake City, Utah Lines: 50 From article <809@cmx.npac.syr.edu>, by anand@amax.npac.syr.edu (Anand Rangachari): > > With all this talk about reducing the possibility of collision with debris, > I am reminded of a scheme suggested in the book 'The songs of distant Earth' > by Clarke. In this book, the ship Magellen pushes a shield made of ice > ahead of it, sweeping a clean path. Maybe a similar shield could be > made for the space shuttle from waste water and the water produced in the > fuel cells. Not a bad idea, except that a starship traveling at some fraction of the speed of light and a space shuttle in LEO are very different physical systems. The shield would have to surround the shuttle, not just sit in front of it. Debris in the same orbit as the as the shuttle has very little (none if in the SAME orbit, going the SAME direction) difference in velocity relative to the shuttle and is not a threat. But debris in orbits that cross the shuttle orbit, and therefore have high velocities relative to the shuttle are the danger. A starship is moving quickly with respect to the interstellar dust and gases and can (maybe) get away with not worrying about material in trajectories that cross its path. > In fact it could be produced quite easily by creating a framework made > from a shape memory alloy. Then, water could be sprayed on it to actually > form the shield. In a vacuum ice sublimes. That is it converts directly from a solid to a gas. This fact has been used to get rid of heat on manned spacecraft for quite some time. I suppose that if the ice is cold enough this can be reduced to a point where the loss is insignificant, but in LEO the ice will be in sun light for about half of each orbit. The shield will slowly melt away. > R. Anand Question: Liquid water released in orbit tends to convert into a cloud of water vapor and ice cristals. The ice crystals later sublime to water vapor. Could large clouds of ice crystals be used to "sweep" orbits of small debris particles? Doesn't sound practicle, too large a volume, too few particles. But I haven't heard it suggested before. Might it be useful for sheilding a battle station from a kinetic engery attack using a bucket of b.b.s? Bob P. -- Bob Pendleton, speaking only for myself. UUCP Address: decwrl!esunix!bpendlet or utah-cs!esunix!bpendlet Reality is what you make of it.