Xref: utzoo comp.ai:2679 talk.philosophy.misc:1601 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!teknowledge-vaxc!sri-unix!garth!smryan From: smryan@garth.UUCP (Steven Ryan) Newsgroups: comp.ai,talk.philosophy.misc Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence, Infinity, and Hate Message-ID: <1922@garth.UUCP> Date: 22 Nov 88 00:29:03 GMT References: <493@soleil.UUCP> <1071@actnyc.UUCP> Reply-To: smryan@garth.UUCP (Steven Ryan) Organization: INTERGRAPH (APD) -- Palo Alto, CA Lines: 22 >Some humans are just biological Turing machines. Others aren't. >Those who are machines are the ones that know they are. Their machine >nature prevents them from detecting the other, non-machine kind of human. An amusing idea: Currently the only known way to prove nothing will pass the Turing test is to try all possible machines. In other words, it appears to be a partial recursive predicate. Now once a machine gets trapped in partial recursive predicate, it's trapped for infinity, so you couldn't expect a machine to prove nothing will pass the Turing test in finite time. Now if humans can't devise a finite proof.......... -- -- s m ryan +---------------------------------------------------------------+--------------+ | And they looked across the PDP7 and saw that it was idle and | OSF is the | | without users. They `said let there be code' and it was. | antiUnix. | +---------------------------------------------------------------+--------------+ There was a read and a write and it was the first memory cycle.