Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cadnetix.COM!cadnetix!eriks From: eriks@cadnetix.COM (Eriks Ziemelis) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: RISC v. CISC --(really Cyber 170) Summary: There are living fossils on the net Message-ID: <5351@cadnetix.COM> Date: 21 Nov 88 16:55:56 GMT References: <595030314.2944@minster.york.ac.uk> <1762@scolex> <6475@june.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@cadnetix.COM Reply-To: eriks@cadnetix.COM (Eriks Ziemelis) Organization: Cadnetix Corp., Boulder, CO Lines: 36 In article <6475@june.cs.washington.edu> rik@june.cs.washington.edu (Rik Littlefield) writes: >In article <1762@scolex>, seanf@sco.COM (Sean Fagan) writes: > >> Lastly, why wouldn't you want to program these machines? They are >> *wonderful*. Anybody who has to learn assembly language should learn these >> machines (they're about as regular as a PDP, but are much faster, and >> prepare people for RISC)! > >I agree completely -- no complicated addressing modes, a simple regular >instruction set, and (for their day) they ran like scalded dogs. Having >just 18-bit addresses did get in the way, though. Especially since only 17 >of them were actually usable, and most machines weren't even that big! > >--Rik Hear, hear! Even though my experience with the Cyber family was in college (2 6500 and 1 6600: one of the systems had the ECS) I loved it. Still have copies of the manuals and after having worked with Vaxen, 68K, PDP, et. al. I still want to program a Cyber. Almost took a job out of college doing just that for a SDI (Star Wars) research company. Oh well, we all make mistakes. To anyone at Purdue: I heard a rumor that the assembly language programming course (CS 300) is no longer Compass. Is this true? Eriks A. Ziemelis Internet: eriks@cadnetix.com UUCP: ...!{uunet,boulder}!cadnetix!eriks U.S. Snail: Cadnetix Corp. 5775 Flatiron Pkwy Boulder, CO 80301 Baby Bell: (303) 444-8075 X221