Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!agate!garnet!weemba From: weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (Matthew P Wiener) Newsgroups: comp.emacs Subject: Re: Obnoxious lisp code Message-ID: <17246@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 19 Nov 88 09:50:15 GMT References: Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (Matthew P Wiener) Organization: Brahms Gang Posting Central Lines: 40 In-reply-to: karl@triceratops.cis.ohio-state.edu (Karl Kleinpaste) In article , karl@triceratops (Karl Kleinpaste) writes: >dieter@titan.nmt.edu (The Demented Teddy Bear) writes: > >[Karl's former signature:] > > "He even writes obnoxious LISP CODE!" > > -- A local Lisp hacker and AI expert, having tried > > (thus far unsuccessfully) to bring up Gnews 2.0. > And seems to ignore questions about it. Oh please. I do respond when I can. Sometimes I get busy for awhile. Sometimes a correct response requires thinking. And sometimes I just forget. I get lots of Gnews mail. (2 Mbytes to date or so. I stopped counting long long ago.) >An amazing thing was learned today about Gnews: It gets just all upset >if rnews is loaded before Gnews. The symptoms include the following, in case it happens to you: "y" is unbound in news-mode. The name "Gnews:" does not show up on the left side of the mode line. "NEWS" shows up as the mode name, instead of "News". "n" returns a "Wrong type argument: integer-or-marker-p, nil." error. "l" returns an empty roster. > so it was always already present when Gnews loaded >up, which caused Gnews to notice that there already existed a >news-mode-map, which meant that it didn't bother to initialize >news-mode-map, which was wrong... I suppose the time to program around any rnews conflicts has come anyway. You gave me a real good scare there for awhile. >BTW, Matthew seems to have found that .signature file pretty amusing >for the short while that I had it. Hell yes. As Karl, but not the person he's quoting, knew, I give that explicit warning in the README file. ucbvax!garnet!weemba Matthew P Wiener/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720 "Nil sounds like a lot of kopins! I never got paid nil before!" --Groo