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From: dieter (The Demented Teddy Bear)
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Subject: Re: talk-mode for Emacs
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Date: 23 Nov 88 03:41:31 GMT
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In-reply-to: bob@allosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu (Bob Sutterfield)

In article <28173@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu>, bob@allosaur (Bob Sutterfield) writes:
>
> Shouldn't be that tough for a decent Lisp hacquer (of which I'm not an
> example) to do the talk protocol in Emacs Lisp - but what a weird
> idea!

This involves the Lisp code knowing the address of its socket.  Admittedly,
I haven't hacked at it that much, but are the hooks really there for that?

> I'd like to know the name of the person who originally made the observation:
> 	"Emacs is a nice environment.  And I've heard that there's a
> 	 decent screen editor in there somewhere, too!"
> 

According to my quotes file, Bob Sutterfield.

> >Such a utility would enable me to initiate and receive talk requests
> >without having to leave emacs (as I am forced to do so at the moment).
>
> If you don't have a window system running, how about suspend-emacs,
> often bound to C-X C-Z on systems that have job control?

By my definition, that *is* leaving emacs.  Also, don't assume the
system has job control.  Believe it or not, Gnu on VMS does this
better than on some Sys V boxes.  I was amazed.

Suggested solution #43 for the original question:

Try M-x terminal-emulator.  You probably want to
split-window-vertically (^x 2) first, but that's a personal
preference.

In fact, I used this particular mode when helping port Berkeley's talk
and talkd to VMS.  In one emulator window, you rlogin to the remote
machine.  In another, you try to talk to yourself@othermachine.  Kinda
strange looking, but it does speed up debugging when you aren't
blessed with a workstation.

So just how many of us poor peons still have to live with standard
80x24 ASCII terminal, anyway?  Seems like all the world's Sun/
Macintosh/Amiga/graphics beast....

Dieter
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