Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lts!amanda
From: amanda@lts.UUCP (Amanda Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Responder problems
Summary: Nope, try again :-)
Message-ID: <726@lts.UUCP>
Date: 24 Nov 88 00:49:07 GMT
References: <8811172050.AA05789@dsunx1> <21089@apple.Apple.COM>
Organization: InterCon Corporation, Reston, VA
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In article <21089@apple.Apple.COM>, carr@Apple.COM (Randy Carr) writes:
> Hi, I'm the author of that troublesome little INIT known as Responder

Hi, I'm one of the authors of TCP/Connect.

> I'll bet that that TelNet & TCP/connect software is not checking to
> see if its own internal sockets have actually opened successfully.
> The program continues, but, of course, no data can actually be
> received (or mostly likely sent)

Well, it was a good theory.  However, NCSA Telnet (and TCP/Connect,
which uses the same networking code) doesn't use ATP.  It installs a
DDP socket listener for DDP protocols 22 & 23 (IP and ARP) and does
all of the rest by itself.  It does indeed check to see if the listener
is properly installed, and that it can open a DDP socket to use for
sending & receiving packets.  Nothing that could possibly interfere with
Responder or vice versa, right?  Grin.  That's what I said, when Mr.
Naegli and I were trying to work this out over the phone...  However, it
does at least seem to be the culprit, from what he has said to me (in
summary: boot from floppy with vanilla 6.0.2, it runs fine; boot from
floppy with vanilla 6.0.2+the Responder that comes with 6.0.2, it runs
like molasses).  I have not not been able to duplicate the problem
here on our Mac Plusses (note that everything's fine on a Mac II), but I
have every reason to believe that it doesn't work at ORNL.  Maybe it's
a local anomaly in the force of gravity or something :-).

Don't ya love these kinds of problems?

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Amanda Walker			...!uunet!lts!amanda / lts!amanda@uunet.uu.net
			  InterCon, 11732 Bowman Green Drive, Reston, VA 22090
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