Xref: utzoo comp.protocols.tcp-ip:5293 comp.unix.wizards:12324 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ncrlnk!ncrcae!hubcap!gatech!rutgers!att!whuts!mhuxh!mhuxu!mhuxt!mhuxi!mhuhk!mhuxo!ulysses!andante!alice!andrew From: andrew@alice.UUCP (Andrew Hume) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: a holiday gift from Robert "wormer" Morris Summary: grow up Message-ID: <8412@alice.UUCP> Date: 10 Nov 88 18:04:30 GMT References: <1698@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU> <2060@spdcc.COM> <24@jove.dec.com> <17823@glacier.STANFORD.EDU> Distribution: na Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ Lines: 29 In article <17823@glacier.STANFORD.EDU>, jbn@glacier.STANFORD.EDU (John B. Nagle) writes: > >According to press reports, RM spent his summers working at AT&T > >on "Unix Communications Software Security". Anyone with a source > >license check to see if he slipped a trojan horse into uucico > >or uuxqt or something? > > This is serious. The knowledge that this person had the opportunity to > tamper with the master source code for UNIX is very worrisome. A major > examination of all AT&T-provided security related code is in order. > > We may not be at the end of this yet. > > > John Nagle come on. this is so prepostrous that i feel obliged to respond. morris has never worked on System V code which is probably what you mean by the master source. he has worked on Research Unix but given Ken Thompson used his Turing Award lecture to advertise a trojan horse he put into research unix; you would have to be very naive to trust research unix. (although there are currently no known trojan horses or viruses.) more importantly, morris has been doing this in an open way; penetrating systems from the outside, not via trojan horses. in a peculiar (but obvious to me) way, he is doing the honourable thing; attacking systems via their own foibles, and not ones he has added. and we have heard peter honeyman acknowledge morris's contribution towards the current uucp. so think a little before raising panics and denigrating people's character.