Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!labrea!agate!helios.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!tetra!budden From: budden@tetra.NOSC.MIL (Rex A. Buddenberg) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Virus - did it infect "secure" machines Message-ID: <713@tetra.NOSC.MIL> Date: 16 Nov 88 00:40:56 GMT References: <881107224915.20c01427@Sds.Sdsc.Edu> <10846@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com> Reply-To: budden@tetra.nosc.mil.UUCP (Rex A. Buddenberg) Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego Lines: 30 Steve, Your observation that the B1 criteria, by itself, would not have stopped the worm is probably correct (sounds plausible to me) as far as you've taken it. But a real security system goes farther. The secure portion of Defense Data Ne is currently segregated from the rest of the internet, and will remain so indefinitely. In the near future, the access control system will use an authentication node who checks to see who you are upon connection opening; then orders a key distribution node to issue you and your other party a unique end-to-end password which evaporates at the conclusion of your session. More important than the technical aspects are the personnel management ones. If you have a job that does not require access to a secure system, then you lack a need to know and hence do not get in. Regardless of clearance level. Every time I've had a clearance issued, recertified, upgraded or terminated, I get some indoctrination regarding the importance of classified information and system integrity for the structure that we use to contain it (sometimes I give the indoctrination). Link encryption, end-to-end encryption, multi-level secure systems, necessary segregation and personnel management/training/leadership are all important parts of a classified system and none can do the job alone. Rex Buddenberg