Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!TCGOULD.TN.CORNELL.EDU!tom From: tom@TCGOULD.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Thomas Vietorisz) Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: Re: Networks, who pays (Really: Libertarian Soap Boxing on INFO-FUTURES) Message-ID: <8811202306.AA09138@tcgould.TN.CORNELL.EDU> Date: 20 Nov 88 23:06:34 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 31 >From article by webb@lll-lcc.llnl.gov (J.J. Webb) <4778@leadsv.UUCP>: > you know, as someone who subscribed to this group thinking that i'd > find some interesting discussions on the future of computers and > computing, i must say that all i see are the dogma armies battling... > now, as a stranger here, i ask, "does anyone have any serious > proposals for funding a `public' network?" As another stranger, I second that. Too much sophomoric ideolo- gizing, a generally disappointing level of information content. I am for a public education and research network, but am willing to listen to serious reservations about letting large organizations, especially the government interfere with and control individual initiatives. The prob- lem is that most of the benefits to any communication network, beginning with the postal service way back, accrue to society as a whole. Even from the most conservative free-enterprise point of view, user fees are the wrong way to fund this kind of a service; economists deal with this under the heading of "external economies" or "spillover effects". If fund- ed by user fees, the system will be grossly underutilized. In the case of a national education and research network, a year's study of markets and economic impacts financed by NYSERNet leads to the conclusion that such a system can neither be self-generating nor self- financing; yet it constitutes the indispensable infrastructure that is required if the U.S. is to make the transition from the age of traditional mass production to the information age, and stay internationally competi- tive, especially vis-a-vis Asia. The cultural resistances are enormous, even apart fr apart from the issue of public funding. All of this requires thoughtful and informed discussion, which should not be drowned out by ideological din. T. Vietoriszz