Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ncrlnk!ncrcae!hubcap!gatech!ukma!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!millar.UUCP!bowles From: bowles@millar.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: Re: Networks, who pays Message-ID: <8811211611.AA20482@lll-crg.llnl.gov> Date: 21 Nov 88 16:11:19 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 47 From: lll-crg!bu-cs.bu.edu!kwe (kwe@bu-it.bu.edu (Kent W. England)) Will uucp serve your needs? Good, then a grass-roots, user-funded national network is just the thing for you. Do you want: ...bulk-data transfer ...supercomputer access with "visualization" ...access to library information bases ...distributed directory services ...terminal access to remote systems? Then you need more than uucp. This may be oversimplifying, but isn't the difference between uucp and most of those things above the difference between batch and non-batch processing? For example, library queries can be done batch, over a uucp-like mechanism. (AT&T has two methods of access to its corporate libraries: you either dial into the database machines or uucp specific requests. Yes, the batch mode is U-G-L-Y, but it works.) But uucp is point-to-point, though. I don't see how to succeed in this without the involvement of government agencies as well as user funding. We need a coordinator and the educational community has been slow to produce such an agent. Admit, though, that in the past 7-8 years the educational world has been largely what's produced "Usenet", such as it is. We'll all agree that 7-8 years is a LONG time, but the educational (grass-roots) world can get SOMETHING done. What the educational community can't do is get into consumer's homes, with new or modified services. Corporations can - look at what cable TV has done around the country; utilities can; the government can - but usually doesn't. And if you think that somehow this leads to a totalitarian police state, then we aren't talking in the same universe and please don't post a follow-up to pursue that line of thinking. I promise not to argue about who should pay, but I don't trust "the private sector" any further than I could throw it. (And I don't trust the U.S. Government either. What else is there? The phone company?) Jeff Bowles