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From: bzs@PINOCCHIO.BERKELEY.EDU (Barry Shein)
Newsgroups: comp.society.futures
Subject: (Inter)National Network
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Date: 22 Nov 88 16:56:28 GMT
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From: vsi1!wyse!tarfoo!mikew@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Mike Wexler)
>	I have been thinking for a while of the possibility of a network 
>similar to the Internet that would allow access to anyone willing 
>to pay for it.  It would probably be based on TCP/IP and some of the
>higher level protocols from the Internet(SMTP,FTP,NNTP...).  It would probably
>initially be targeted to computer companies/universities/research facilities.
>The difference is it would be a private network and it wouldn't be
>nearly as restrictive about who joined it.

The Cypress project is exactly this using Sun3/50's or uVaxen as
"implets" for an organization, all TCP/IP 9600b or 56Kb (or whatever.)
Other implementations are possible, that's just where it stood last I
checked.

Doug Comer, Tom Narten (both Purdue), CSNET, DECWRL and myself (@BU)
were among the people involved with this over the past few years.

Boston University had a Cypress implet (Sun3/50) as its only
connection to the internet for a few years and it worked quite well,
it's still there as an alternate path. Cypress is still in operation
and is still the only link for several organizations. The Cypress
network is cross-country (the major backbone is BBN/Boston,
Purdue/Indiana and DECWRL/Palo Alto, CA) and gatewayed to the
Internet.

The intention was, as the poster wished, to allow anyone hookup to a
national (or eventually international), internet-like network for
merely a fee rather than various rules and regulations existant on
other networks. If you can manage a diskless 3/50 the buy-in cost of
hardware is really not expensive at all for any organization larger
than a single individual and was more than adequate for the traffic,
we ran a 56Kb DDN line on the same machine and it seemed to be
adequate for both, perhaps not ideal, but adequate.

	-Barry Shein, ||Encore||