Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!mcnc!ecsvax!rshapiro@bbn.com From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro) Newsgroups: comp.society.women Subject: Re: Effects of Lacan, Cisoux, etc., on women's position Message-ID: <5848@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> Date: 16 Nov 88 01:03:16 GMT References: <5845@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> Sender: skyler@ecsvax.uncecs.edu Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA Lines: 19 Approved: skyler@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Moderator -- Trish Roberts) Comments-to: comp-women-request@cs.purdue.edu Submissions-to: comp-women@cs.purdue.edu In article <5845@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> PALEPINK@CC.UTAH.EDU writes: >First, I haven't read Lacan, but the two people I know >who've read *all* of her say that she doesn't really >say that language is inherently masculine... Jacques Lacan is (or was? is he still alive?) male, a fact which may or may not be relevant. What IS relevant is the distinction between "prescription" and "description". Most feminist psychoanalysis I've read (I assume this is what "Lacanian feminism" means) considers Freudian/Lacanian psychoanalysis to be *descriptive* -- if Lacan claimed that women are barred from the Symbolic, this is a description of what 'feminine' means, here and now. It is NOT a prescription that things should or must be this way. The goal is to understand what 'femininity' and 'masculinity' have come to mean, not to make claims about the essence of women and men (essentialism being the cardinal sin from this perspective).