Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!nrl-cmf!cmcl2!phri!marob!manes From: manes@marob.MASA.COM (Steve Manes) Newsgroups: comp.sources.wanted Subject: Re: SUMMARY BBS Software wanted for Unix (LONG) Message-ID: <376@marob.MASA.COM> Date: 18 Nov 88 10:14:18 GMT References: <109@tekcsc.MKT.TEK.COM> Distribution: na Organization: ESCC New York City Lines: 264 From article <109@tekcsc.MKT.TEK.COM>, by jeff@tekcsc.MKT.TEK.COM (Jeff Beadles): > Well, after a couple of weeks, here's the responses that I have received. I missed this thread. One more BBS for consideration: Magpie/Xenix. I didn't bring a nice, machine-readable sales brochure with me but here goes. Magpie is an archival, tree-structured BBS. Unlike threaded softwares, Magpie messages are attached logically to each other rather than by "Subject:" or datestamp. This gives the message base a logical, direct "by-reply" relationship for each message. Magpie also includes a wealth of navigation commands to allow you to traverse these threads of message up (to parent), left/right (to sibling replies, i.e. immediate replies to the same parent message and to menus of other replies (presented in a menu format). With this message format you can create a very powerful, hierarchical bulletin-based system. Features: * Search Functions Search for messages by author, recipient, title, date and full message text, either chronologically (forward and back) or limited to the current thread. * Command-driven, Verb-Noun Interface While harder to master initially, Magpie's command interface gives users access to 45+ commands at the standard prompt with a context-sensitive help menu. There are also several "automated" message paths for reading new messages, messages localized to the current thread or messages on your current search path. * Download files "attached" to messages Unlike most BBSes which require you to exit to a FILES area, Magpie's file downloads are logically attached to ordinary messages as enclosures, allowing messages (up to 10k long) to document files and files to support messages. Files can be searched using the same commands used for searching for messages. This also provides greater documentation possibilities for files and allows discussion about those files to be rooted under them directly. * Universal File De-Archiver .ARC, .arc, .ZOO, .zoo, .a, .cpio, .tar, -tar, .sh, .shar, .Z and their various permutations may be manipulated on-line, internal files extracted, re-archived and downloaded, internal text files catted, and/or the entire archive moved to another archive format. * Editors Magpie has both a very powerful line editor with block insert and delete and Upload (through the editor) and a very-protected 'vi' editor (ain't been cracked yet... and I know this sounds like a reckless dare). * Heavily-featured MultiChat program * Word-wrap for terminal widths from 32-132 columns Both input and output. Text will reformat to your terminal's width. * Exec Window Allows execution of Unix programs on a security-based, time limited basis. Magpie tokens can be passed to other programs for username, user level, real name, etc logging and verification. * ANSI color Both ISO and IBM-ANSI. There are three-styles of message headers including a full ANSI-color, tiled window header. * Message Security 50 defined mega-discussion areas (the threading and menus takes care of most everything else you would need). 255 levels of message security. Each discussion may also support an "inner sanctum" of hyper-privileged users with separate read/write permissions. * User Mailboxes Each user maintains a personal mailbox which may also function as a public Very-Special Interest Group. Users can also introduce themselves to each other via their mailbox header. * Every Protocol You Can Imagine Magpie pipes its file downloads through a separate shell script that will allow you to plug in virtually any protocol you can find. Magpie also allows you to queue up to 10 files for download making Zmodem a real plus. * Message Bookmarks Messages can be marked with an easily-remembered alias like "CAR FOR SALE" for later retrieval. * Directory Explorer Examine download directories (with security). * CC Mail Send multiple copies of Email messages. Magpie also has "hot keys" to break out of long-winded messages (such as this one), a Textfile<->Magpie transporter, fullscreen user editor, "Special" messages and a novel new-user security measure that allows new users to write all the messages they want under sysop "publish" control. ---------- Magpie is Shareware ($75 registration/hobbyist, $350/commercial) and is available on many BBSes and Compuserve (as is Magpie/DOS). It can also be downloaded on my BBS (Magpie-HQ @212-420-0527- two lines) or by anonymous UUCP at the above number. You want to request: /prog/nuucp/MagDox.sh.Z - Documentation /prog/nuucp/Mag286.cpio.Z - Magpie/Xenix-286 /prog/nuucp/Mag386.cpio.Z - Magpie/Xenix-386 /prog/nuucp/whats_new - list of other files Login as 'nuucp', no password... 300/1200/2400 baud. Telebit users can also call 212-677-9487 for anonymous UUCP download (only). (I got blisters on me fingers!) -- Steve Manes Roxy Recorders, Inc. Magpie-HQ BBS UUCP : {rutgers|cmcl2}!hombre!magpie!manes (212)420-0527 Smail: manes@MASA.COM ----- News saved at 18 Nov 88 10:05:17 GMT I missed this thread. One more BBS for consideration: Magpie/Xenix. I didn't bring a nice, machine-readable sales brochure with me but here goes. Magpie is an archival, tree-structured BBS. Unlike threaded softwares, Magpie messages are attached logically to each other rather than by "Subject:" or datestamp. This gives the message base a logical, direct "by-reply" relationship for each message. Magpie also includes a wealth of navigation commands to allow you to traverse these threads of message up (to parent), left/right (to sibling replies, i.e. immediate replies to the same parent message and to menus of other replies (presented in a menu format). With this message format you can create a very powerful, hierarchical bulletin-based system. Features: * Search Functions Search for messages by author, recipient, title, date and full message text, either chronologically (forward and back) or limited to the current thread. * Command-driven, Verb-Noun Interface While harder to master initially, Magpie's command interface gives users access to 45+ commands at the standard prompt with a context-sensitive help menu. There are also several "automated" message paths for reading new messages, messages localized to the current thread or messages on your current search path. * Download files "attached" to messages Unlike most BBSes which require you to exit to a FILES area, Magpie's file downloads are logically attached to ordinary messages as enclosures, allowing messages (up to 10k long) to document files and files to support messages. Files can be searched using the same commands used for searching for messages. This also provides greater documentation possibilities for files and allows discussion about those files to be rooted under them directly. * Universal File De-Archiver .ARC, .arc, .ZOO, .zoo, .a, .cpio, .tar, -tar, .sh, .shar, .Z and their various permutations may be manipulated on-line, internal files extracted, re-archived and downloaded, internal text files catted, and/or the entire archive moved to another archive format. * Editors Magpie has both a very powerful line editor with block insert and delete and Upload (through the editor) and a very-protected 'vi' editor (ain't been cracked yet... and I know this sounds like a reckless dare). * Heavily-featured MultiChat program * Word-wrap for terminal widths from 32-132 columns Both input and output. Text will reformat to your terminal's width. * Exec Window Allows execution of Unix programs on a security-based, time limited basis. Magpie tokens can be passed to other programs for username, user level, real name, etc logging and verification. * ANSI color Both ISO and IBM-ANSI. There are three-styles of message headers including a full ANSI-color, tiled window header. * Message Security 50 defined mega-discussion areas (the threading and menus takes care of most everything else you would need). 255 levels of message security. Each discussion may also support an "inner sanctum" of hyper-privileged users with separate read/write permissions. * User Mailboxes Each user maintains a personal mailbox which may also function as a public Very-Special Interest Group. Users can also introduce themselves to each other via their mailbox header. * Every Protocol You Can Imagine Magpie pipes its file downloads through a separate shell script that will allow you to plug in virtually any protocol you can find. Magpie also allows you to queue up to 10 files for download making Zmodem a real plus. * Message Bookmarks Messages can be marked with an easily-remembered alias like "CAR FOR SALE" for later retrieval. * Directory Explorer Examine download directories (with security). * CC Mail Send multiple copies of Email messages. Magpie also has "hot keys" to break out of long-winded messages (such as this one), a Textfile<->Magpie transporter, fullscreen user editor, "Special" messages and a novel new-user security measure that allows new users to write all the messages they want under sysop "publish" control. ---------- Magpie is Shareware ($75 registration/hobbyist, $350/commercial) and is available on many BBSes and Compuserve (as is Magpie/DOS). It can also be downloaded on my BBS (Magpie-HQ @212-420-0527- two lines) or by anonymous UUCP at the above number. You want to request: /prog/nuucp/MagDox.sh.Z - Documentation /prog/nuucp/Mag286.cpio.Z - Magpie/Xenix-286 /prog/nuucp/Mag386.cpio.Z - Magpie/Xenix-386 /prog/nuucp/whats_new - list of other files Login as 'nuucp', no password... 300/1200/2400 baud. Telebit users can also call 212-677-9487 for anonymous UUCP download (only). (I got blisters on me fingers!) -- Steve Manes Roxy Recorders, Inc. Magpie-HQ BBS UUCP : {rutgers|cmcl2}!hombre!magpie!manes (212)420-0527 Smail: manes@MASA.COM -- Steve Manes Roxy Recorders, Inc. Magpie-HQ BBS UUCP : {rutgers|cmcl2}!hombre!magpie!manes (212)420-0527 Smail: manes@MASA.COM -- Steve Manes Roxy Recorders, Inc. Magpie-HQ BBS UUCP : {rutgers|cmcl2}!hombre!magpie!manes (212)420-0527 Smail: manes@MASA.COM