Xref: utzoo comp.sys.atari.st:12379 comp.sys.amiga:25147 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!rutgers!bellcore!texbell!uhnix1!uhnix2!uace0 From: uace0@uhnix2.uh.edu (Michael B. Vederman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: How is Atari doing in Germany? Keywords: Amiga, Atari, Germany Message-ID: <694@uhnix2.uh.edu> Date: 11 Nov 88 14:59:02 GMT References: <706@sdcc15.ucsd.edu> <426@bdt.UUCP> Reply-To: uace0@uhnix2.UUCP Organization: University of Houston Lines: 76 In article <426@bdt.UUCP> david@bdt.UUCP (David Beckemeyer) writes: > >Another side note: I've now noticed that Antic Software is publishing >AMIGA SOFTWARE. What does "Antic - The Atari Resource" have to say for >themselves now, I wonder? >-- >David Beckemeyer (david@bdt.UUCP) | "Lester Moore - Four slugs from a .44 >Beckemeyer Development Tools | no Les, no more." >478 Santa Clara Ave. Oakland, CA 94610 | - Headstone at Boot Hill >UUCP: {uunet,ucbvax}!unisoft!bdt!david | Tombstone, AZ Being an ANTIC developer, I can comment on this rather instigating comment. I cannot, however, speak officially for ANTIC, but rather let you know what I have learned from the people I deal with. Bottom line: Atari sales aren't that great in the US. No news there! The move is one to keep Antic software alive. The software part of Antic is *now* (it wasn't before) a separate company than Antic Publishing, which produces Antic and STart magazines. The new company's co-owners have decided to increase their profits, and have, in fact, not only entered the AMIGA market, but the IBM market as well. Unless we wanted to see *NO* software at all from Antic Software, Inc. (ie. the Cyber line, FLASH, SHADOW, Cad 3D, etc.) this move was needed. I can't say it all, but Atari owners can expect more changes from Antic Software. That *DOES NOT* mean changes for the worse!!!!! As a matter of fact, 'Cyber Punks' are rampant and Antic's Cyber line is going to continue to grow, despite Tom Hudson's move to IBM (to supposedly produce Cyber-type STuff on the IBM). Almost everyday, ANTIC gets calls from people wishing to develop new Cyber related products. Also, another company related to Antic Software (I can't recall the name) is importing foriegn products and marketing them through Antic's distribution network. I personally don't see anything wrong with preserving the ST software line by making a *smart* business decision. ** FLAME ON ** If David Beckemeyer would stop wearing his heart on his sleeve, maybe he wouldn't get so offended by other people's marketing strategies. Just because he had faith in ATARI Corp. and they let him down, *DOES NOT* give him the right to bash all companies associated with the ATARI computers!!! Everyone is in the same boat. You just jumped ship early, and seem to still be floating waiting for a rescue party. I am sorry that RTX didn't take off like you wanted. I personally wish I was making much more money from our ATARI products, but that is why I have a real job, as a real computer programmer for a POS company. (And I program the IBM PC all day, as well as OS/9 on a VME 020 machine!) The fact is, I have an Atari ST, I'm not rich, but I do enjoy the system. The computer is great, despite Atari's lack of developer's support (which seems to be getting much better), so I program on it. Compared to the IBM rag, the ST is a fun machine to program, that allows me much better performance and ease of programming. Not to mention it doesn't have *brain dead* assembly!!! So, please get over it David. Bash Atari, not the companies trying to make money the best way they can! ** FLAME OFF ** These opinions *DO NOT* reflect Antic Software or Double Click Software. They are my own!!! Flame me. See y'all at COMDEX! - mike vederman -- for (;;) : Use ATARINET, send an interactive do_it(c_programmers); : message such as: : Tell UH-INFO at UHUPVM1 ATARINET HELP University Atari Computer Enthusiasts : University of Houston UACE