Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ames!pasteur!agate!ucbvax!MTUS5.BITNET!SWGRAHAM From: SWGRAHAM@MTUS5.BITNET Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: BITNET mail follows Message-ID: <8811132323.aa14837@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> Date: 14 Nov 88 03:56:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 68 Date: 13 November 88, 22:54:53 EST From: SWGRAHAM at MTUS5 To: INFO-APPLE at BRL.MIL >From: Aashi Deacon >There IS interest here for technical "other apple" information. >I have an apple //c and, for instance, would like to know of >some good reference books (not the wimpy books that came with it). >I would also like a good assembly language book, and >some good information about C compilers. >AND (haha, i want everthing no? :-) how about some information >on how to upgrade memory? add a hard drive? modem? external >keyboard? will an extended keyboard (like for Mac II) work? Reference Books: Here are four to start with: 1. Apple IIc Technical Reference Manual ( published by Addison-Wesley, about $25) 2. What's Where in the Apple by William F. Lubbert, published by Micro Ink. This is an oldie but a goodie. It was written back in 1982, and it doesn't have any info on ProDos, but it does have a lot of stuff that is still useful. It's the only place that I've ever seen a list of all the entry points of Applesoft Basic. 3. ProDos Inside and Out by Dennis Doms and Tom Weishaar. This contains a lot of info about BASIC as well as ProDos. 4. Beneath Apple ProDos by Don Worth and Peter Lechner. Learn the arcane secrets of the MLI interface. If you don't have a good bookstore handy, you can order most of these from Open-Apple, P.O. Box 11250, Overland Park, KS 66207. Memory: Try Applied Engineering or Checkmate. Applied Engineering makes Z-Ram Ultra, which has been out for a few years and comes in 256K, 512K, and 1 Meg models. I bought a 512K model about two years ago. My only regret is that I didn't put out the extra bucks for 1 Meg. I see from the latest Nibble (Dec. 88) that AE has a new memory card for the IIc and IIc+ called Ram Express. Hard Drives: Chinook Technology sells a 20MB hard drive for the IIc at $750. They have an ad on page 62 of the December Nibble. Modem: Any modem that uses the RS232 interface should work. Try your local dealer or a mail order place. Assembly Language: I learned assembly language from a book entitled Apple Machine Language for Beginners, published by Compute! Magazine. It comes with its own type-in assembler. If you're more serious about assembly language than I am, you'll probably want to buy a commercial assembler like Merlin Pro, and one of the six books on 6502 Assembly Language listed in the Open-Apple catalog. Extended Keyboard: Not bloody likely. If you have any further questions, just let me know. ------------------------------------------- Sid Graham Bitnet:swgraham@mtus5 Math Dept. Internet:swgraham@mtucs.edu Michigan Tech Houghton, MI 49931 "Persons attempting to find a motive in this narrative will be prosecuted." -- Mark Twain