Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mailrus!cwjcc!neoucom!wtm From: wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Need to know signal designations for //e rear panel mouse conn. Message-ID: <1411@neoucom.UUCP> Date: 15 Nov 88 20:34:07 GMT Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Lines: 23 A person here has asked me to connect some "game" controls designed to plug into a //c or //e rear panel to an older ][+ machine. The manuals for the ][+ are pretty decent, but the books for the //e really STINK (no pin-outs even for the external connectors!). Heck, the old ][ manuals had the whole schematic and ROM contents. I'd really like to strangle the editor of these //e manuals. ~150 pages on how to use the Prodos file utility, but not even a peep about how to do anything substantive with Prodos. These manuals are for a relatively old //e; hopefully apple came out with something better after the machine was on the market for a while. I still have the old red 8.5 by 11 inch reference book; that's my favorite (from the days of the non-autostart F8 ROM!). I would be most appreciative if somebody could [preferably] email or post the pin-outs for the mouse connector. I figured that I would make a little pigtail to go from the DE-9P on the game control over to the 14 pin DIP socket in the ][+. I know the pin-outs for the DIP socket; no problem there. Thanks in advance, --Bill *3D0G return mail path: ...!lll-winken!scooter!neoucom!impulse!wtm