Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!portal!cup.portal.com!BobR From: BobR@cup.portal.com (Bob BobR Retelle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit Subject: Re: Re: Was: Flight Sim II <=> XF551 incompatible forever Message-ID: <11202@cup.portal.com> Date: 12 Nov 88 01:50:30 GMT References: <1270013@hpclkms.HP.COM> <2567@ihlpm.ATT.COM> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 22 Nick DiMasi writes, regarding formatting the "back" side of a disk by "flipping" it manually in an XF-551 drive: >I would have to get creative with a paper punch (or dig up one of >those Nibble Notch II gadgets, that punches a write-notch and >index hole for the 2nd side). Exactly right..! When I was helping a friend who owned a Percom drive, I eventually made up a small cardboard "jig" to help me mark the spot opposite the existing timing hole, so I could then *very carefully* insert the business end of a paper punch into the central hub hold of the disk jacket and punch the new timing hole (through both the top and bottom of the disk jacket... ONE SIDE AT A TIME...! You DON'T want to punch through the disk itself..!!) I finally ended up just taking his disks home and formatting them on my Atari 810 drive for him... There used to be special "Flippy" disks available, with timing holes pre-punched on both sides... these would be ideal for anyone who seems to feel they still must "flip" their disks in an XF-551... they may be hard to find now though... BobR