Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!pilchuck!del From: del@Data-IO.COM (Erik Lindberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: RLL controller Message-ID: <1038@pilchuck.Data-IO.COM> Date: 14 Nov 88 08:10:05 GMT References: <299@deimos.cis.ksu.edu> <400@mccc.UUCP> Reply-To: del@pilchuck.Data-IO.COM (Erik Lindberg) Organization: Data I/O Corporation; Redmond, WA Lines: 40 In article <400@mccc.UUCP> pjh@mccc.UUCP (Pete Holsberg) writes: >Use an RLL controller ONLY with drives certified by their manufacturer >to be compatible with RLL operation. >-- Sigh. Here we go again... I think this piece of mis-information was started by a conspiracy between Western Digital and Seagate. And it keeps getting spread around and around. RLL was originally designed to work with *standard* hard drives. And it will, with any high quality drive/controller combination. Unfortunately, price seems to be the main criteria for purchases to most people, and WD and Seagate have filled that demand admirably, sacrificing performance (both of course have quality products available, but these aren't the most popular). Anyway, this is an old issue and I am tired of repeating the technical details (why didn't I just save a boilerplate to post?). I will just say that I have installed many non "RLL certified" drives and they work fine. Specifically, most Miniscribe drives and Maxtor drives are not "RLL certified" but will work with RLL (as long as you don't use the Western Digital 1002-27x controller). Many other drives will also work. I suspect Maxtor and Miniscribe "RLL certified" drives are not any different from their "regular" drives, but they are filling the public demand for "RLL certification". At a price. If you are a novice at hardware installation, and are purchasing both the drive and the controller new, it is good advice to stick with an RLL certified combination. If you already have a drive and are wondering whether it will work with RLL, buy an OMTI or Adaptec controller and try it. Contrary to some rumors you may hear it is not possible to damage your drive through the use of RLL. Again this is a result of WD 1002-27x 'ism. This controller will sometimes respond to certain drive conditions by locking up the machine, preventing the user from doing a low level format. The drive is not damaged, you will just have to format on a controller other than WD. -- del (Erik Lindberg) uw-beaver!tikal!pilchuck!del