Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ncrlnk!ncr-sd!hp-sdd!hplabs!sm.unisys.com!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!nrl-cmf!cmcl2!rocky8!cucard!ccnysci!alexis From: alexis@ccnysci.UUCP (Alexis Rosen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Reeks on Disktimer (LONG) Message-ID: <1001@ccnysci.UUCP> Date: 17 Nov 88 10:00:04 GMT References: <698@mouse.UUCP> <30643@think.UUCP> <989@ccnysci.UUCP> <31573@think.UUCP> Reply-To: alexis@ccnysci.UUCP (Alexis Rosen) Lines: 39 In article <31573@think.UUCP> ephraim@vidar.think.com.UUCP (Ephraim Vishniac) writes: "In article <989@ccnysci.UUCP> alexis@ccnysci.UUCP (Alexis Rosen) writes: "+In article <30643@think.UUCP> ephraim@vidar.think.com.UUCP (Ephraim Vishniac) "+writes (in an article about J. Reeks vs. DiskTimer II): "+> ... As I mentioned in an earlier posting, data "+>transfer rate is highly overrated as a performance measure. When "+>running most applications, seek time is much more important. " "+This is what I used to think. ... Later I bought a Quantum 80 MB "+unit with a seek time 50% slower than the Maxtor (28 ms as opposed to "+18 ms) which nevertheless performed much faster in many operations. "+The speed came from use of the then-new "fake DMA" mode which used "+hardware-assisted "blind" reads and writes on the Mac II. So transfer "+speed had a major impact on perceived speed. " "But the Q280 also has a large (60KB? I don't remember exactly.) "on-board cache. So the seeks may be slower, but they are also "somewhat less frequent. This is a prime example of why benchmarking "or buying disks is so damned complicated. We need an actual usage "test, but I doubt we'll ever agree on one. How large is large? My understanding was that it was a one-track cache. This is, I believe, exactly the same as the Maxtor. In any event, a one-track cache can't have any effect on seeks, can it? I thought the primary use of this kind of cache is to eliminate rotational latency delays on requests for different sectors on the same track. There is another factor- since the Maxtor had more platters (and thus more R/W heads) it actually had to do less track-to-track seeking (more info under the heads at any one moment). Of course, there could conceivably be a disk so fragmented that this would be irrelevant. But in fact, my case was a pretty controlled test: One large 40-odd MB datafile, pre-allocated and guaranteed contiguous. ---- Alexis Rosen alexis@dasys1.UUCP or alexis@ccnysci.UUCP Writing from {allegra,philabs,cmcl2}!phri\ The Big Electric Cat uunet!dasys1!alexis Public UNIX {portal,well,sun}!hoptoad/