Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!apple!phil From: phil@Apple.COM (Phil Ronzone) Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux Subject: Re: Some questions about A/UX Message-ID: <21057@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 22 Nov 88 17:54:58 GMT References: <941@ccnysci.UUCP> <19528@apple.Apple.COM> <964@ccnysci.UUCP> <19816@apple.Apple.COM> <1011@ccnysci.UUCP> Organization: Apple Computer A/UX Group Lines: 34 In article <1011@ccnysci.UUCP> alexis@ccnysci.UUCP (Alexis Rosen) writes: >.... Writing to a buffered SCSI disk can go up to 400K/s. That's great... >but not too great. The Wrens can sustain a throughput of 1MB/s. That's really >great. So why is the Mac's "great" != the Wren's "great"? > >In other words, if the lack of DMA isn't slowing down the Mac, what is??? >It is clearly not going as fast as it should. One last last shot -- then I'm forgetting the matter. Typical UNIX SV filesystem, 50 reads a second, each read to essentially a random block. Assuming fast disks with 16MS average seek times. Each read/write takes maybe 200 to 900 microseconds, depending on hardware. This gives us a time to ACQUIRE IN MEMORY, for each block, 16MS + ~500 microseconds. Now if we had an INFINITELY FAST DMA/tranfers mechanism, we could cut that figure down to 16MS + ~0 microseconds. Notice the blazing increase in throughput!!! :-) OPEN QUESTION - why do you think the "Mac is not going as fast as it should"? If this is on a comparsion basis, tell me the equivalent machine that runs faster. Equivalent means 68020, ~16MHz, memory management, SCSI disk I/O, SVR2, etc. We really do want to know of equivalent hardware that runs better because of software. When we find it, we want to make ours run faster too. WARNING -- "fast & faster" can be exceptionally subjective. +------------------------+-----------------------+----------------------------+ | Philip K. Ronzone | A/UX System Architect | APPLELINK: RONZONE1 | | Apple Computer MS 27AJ +-----------------------+----------------------------+ | 10500 N. DeAnza Blvd. | If you post a bug to the net, and the manufacturer | | Cupertino CA 95014 | doesn't read it,does that mean it doesn't exist? | +------------------------+----------------------------------------------------+ |{amdahl,decwrl,sun,voder,nsc,mtxinu,dual,unisoft}!apple!phil | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+