Xref: utzoo comp.unix.wizards:12400 sci.lang:3329 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!rutgers!cmcl2!adm!smoke!gwyn From: gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn ) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards,sci.lang Subject: Re: sexist language Message-ID: <8883@smoke.BRL.MIL> Date: 14 Nov 88 09:49:11 GMT References: <1460@ucsfcca.ucsf.edu> <698@packard.UUCP> <1988Nov9.200939.6069@utzoo.uucp> <10837@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com> <1988Nov13.202622.23562@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Reply-To: gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn (VLD/VMB) ) Followup-To: sci.lang Organization: Ballistic Research Lab (BRL), APG, MD. Lines: 35 In article <1988Nov13.202622.23562@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> woods@gpu.utcs.Toronto.EDU (Greg Woods) writes: >I think we can do quite well without massive and abrupt change. We can >simply continue the gradual evolution of the language: beginning to use >'he/she' where required, or else a random mix of 'he' and 'she; eventual >dropping of the 'ess' from various words like 'steward' and 'actor'; >gradually switching to less obviously connotated words such as changing >'alderman' to 'councelor' where nearly equivalent terms exist, and >especially in new situations; as well as education about language and >its history. These changes are already well on a roll, and have been >for quite some time (at least in Canadian schools). In English as it existed before the recent politicization of the language, there were two genders, masculine and feminine. Unlike Latin and some other languages, English has no separate neutral gender. In cases where neutral gender would be appropriate, it has long been an explicit rule of the English language that the masculine form be used. It could just as well have been the feminine gender but it wasn't. Some uniform choice was needed and made so long ago as to almost be prehistory. Even female writers of English literature followed this rule without complaint. If anything, you could say that this rule discriminates against males, because in some cases it can be difficult to tell whether "he" refers to a person explicitly male or just to a generic person, whereas "she" always unambiguously indicates a female. To say that the rule in any way reflects unfavorably on females would be ludicrous were it not for the adverse effect on readability that this widespread belief is now having. If you think English is bad, I advise you to steer clear of Spanish, where even inanimate objects are either masculine or feminine. Folks, it really doesn't matter so long as the rules are consistently applied, to maximize readability. By messing around with the language in a blatant attempt to foist political ideas on the general public, a severe disservice to the English-speaking population is being done.