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From: nagel@paris.ics.uci.edu (Mark Nagel)
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Subject: Re: RACIST JOKES
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Date: 20 Nov 88 20:56:40 GMT
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In-reply-to: davidm@ihlpa.ATT.COM (Makowsky)

In article <10551@ihlpa.ATT.COM>, davidm@ihlpa (Makowsky) writes:

|The fact of the matter is that the presence of a moderator IMPLIES
|censorship.  Isn't that what he is there for in the first place?

No.  He is there for quality control.  A subtle, but very real difference.
Do you accuse Ann Landers (or any send-me-a-letter-and-I-might-print-it
columnist) of censorship because s/he refuses to print your letter?
Brad's "job" (he *is* a volunteer, remember!) is to separate the
chaff from the wheat *in* *his* *opinion*.  That is the charter of
the group.  If you don't like it, start another moderated group.

|If the author of the "joke" felt he was being wrongly censored, he
|could always post to rec.humor (not that it would be any less
|offensive).

No argument here...  So how could you call what Brad does censorship?
This is the same as having Dear Aunt Mo publish the letter Ann Landers
rejected.  But Dear Aunt Mo prints everything...

|If you do not like censorship, complain about the whole idea of
|having a moderator.  In the meantime, as long as there is a
|moderator, "jokes" that are offensive in the slightest bit should
|not be given the light of day by the moderator.

Please, do tell me a joke that is not "offensive in the slightest bit."
Or better yet, post them in your new moderated group
"rec.humor.unoffensive"  My disk can probably take the added burden...

Mark D. Nagel
  UC Irvine - Dept of Info and Comp Sci | The probability of someone
  nagel@ics.uci.edu             (ARPA)  | watching you is proportional to
  {sdcsvax|ucbvax}!ucivax!nagel (UUCP)  | the stupidity of your action.