Xref: utzoo alt.flame:3165 news.misc:1994 soc.culture.jewish:8215 rec.humor.d:1139 Path: utzoo!hoptoad!pacbell!ames!nrl-cmf!mailrus!rutgers!topaz.rutgers.edu!clong From: clong@topaz.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) Newsgroups: alt.flame,news.misc,soc.culture.jewish,rec.humor.d Subject: The Good, the Bad, and the Stupid (LONG) Message-ID: Date: 22 Nov 88 21:55:10 GMT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 126 A play involving various evil-doers making stupid comments. I could have let them stand on their own (the gibber content is that high), but I couldn't resist a few cheap jabs. Cast of characters: The good: Brad Tempelton, persecuted moderator of rec.humor.funny . The misguided: Jonathan E. D. Richmond, leader of the misguided: "My ultimate goal -- to reply to question 4 -- is the elimination of racist jokes from rec.humor.funny." My ultimate goal -- to reply to Jonathan Richmond -- is the elimination of Jonathan Richmond. "In reply to #7, I was simply saying that I wish to consider some action which will result in the elimination of racist "humor" from rec.humor.funny." racist humor, [noun], something Jonathan Richmond doesn't like. "Gary, let's please not speculate on what I might or might not do -- I have simply given Brad Templeton notice that if he cannot find sufficient control to be reasonably selective by himself, I am inclined to take further action. I haven't said what that action is." Start filling those bottles with gasoline ... that'll show 'em. "As it so happens, I have been informed that Brad Templeton in fact owns his firm, so there doesn't appear to be a question of contacting his employer (there may be other options, though.)" Looks like you'll have to switch to the backup plan. "As I said in an earlier posting, I very much support the right of freedom of speech, but that is rarely the only "right" under consideration. The right of ethnic and religious groups to not feel persecuted is another and, by the way, Canadian law is much stricter on this than American law. Mr. Templeton happens to live in Canada, so we should consider the Canadian case as well as the American one." The right of Jonathan Richmond to censor everything he doesn't like is another and, by the way, Moron law is much stricter on this than American law. Nancy M Gould, his second-in-command: "If enough people from ANY ETHNIC GROUP feel offended, the jokes should not be posted." The Chris Long ethnic group sez, Nance stop posting! "How unfortunate. It doesn't say very much for the values of other people." I never did like other people, now I know why. "In 1933 a significant amount of German's found such humor to be funny also. Who cares about what the majority of net readers think! Whatever happened to the rights of minorities!" In 1988 a significant amount of news readers found knot jokes to be funny also. Who cares what the majority of news readers think! Whatever happened to the rights of little bits of string! "Because Jonathon's viewpoint represents a commonly accepted moral principle--one that is accepted by virtually every religion (Christianity as well as Judaism), secular humanists, and even some atheists and agnostics." Gee, even some atheists! I thought we were all Satanists. "If enough people from ANY CATEGORY have reason to feellthat they are being discriminated against (and history shows that their fears are not totally unfounded), consideration and respect should be given to their feelings." The Chris Long minority sez, Nance stop posting! David Makowsky, toadie bigot: "The fact of the matter is that the presence of a moderator IMPLIES censorship. Isn't that what he is there for in the first place?" And I thought he was there to screen joke quality; guess ya learn something new every day. "If you do not like censorship, complain about the whole idea of having a moderator. In the meantime, as long as there is a moderator, "jokes" that are offensive in the slightest bit should not be given the light of day by the moderator." I find you to be a joke, and offensive. Go away. Betsy R. Schwartz --aka-- Kinyan Cattery, a random bigot: "Do not be deceived by the numbers. Some of us who are deeply offended have kept silent, because we have been taught that as a minority our voice will not be heard unless the majority wants it to be heard. The rights of the minority, apparently do not count." The right of free speech, apparently does not count. "The white, christian, male support that Brad gets makes him feel justified. The if you don't like it, leave it attitude (Don't subscribe if you are offended) does not address the issue." The censoristic, moron, gibber support that Betsy gets makes her feel justified. Go away, bigot. -- Chris Long Mathematics Department Rutgers University New Brunswick, NJ 08903