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From: jfh@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US (The Beach Bum)
Newsgroups: news.misc,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: RACIST JOKES
Summary: No sense of humor.
Message-ID: <8788@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US>
Date: 23 Nov 88 23:07:39 GMT
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Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US (The Beach Bum)
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In article <977@lzfme.att.com> brs@lzfme.UUCP (xmrj5-B.SCHWARTZ) writes:
>Do not be deceived by the numbers.  Some of us who are deeply
>offended have kept silent, because we have been taught that as a
>minority our voice will not be heard unless the majority wants it to
>be heard.  The rights of the minority, apparently do not count.

The silent have no rights.  I should not have to read your mind to
know if you are offended by some action of mine.  Nor should I have
to be considerate of all possible objections - a minority of one
could formulate an objection, this does not mean I must concede to
their demands.  At some point a minority becomes so small as to no
longer be legitimate.

>The white, christian, male support that Brad gets makes
>him feel justified.  The if you don't like it, leave it attitude
>(Don't subscribe if you are offended)  does not address the issue.

Brad is very careful to inform the reader of what groups may be
offended.  Even in the event of an accident, as we recently had it
would appear, you still have no basis for recourse.  By subscribing
to a newsgroup where offensive material is present, you accept the
risk of being offended.[1]

>I'm sure that racism and sexism can be justified by the majority,
>since they are not affected, but does that make it right.

This is a common misconception.  First, the empowered class is
seldom a majority.  As an example, our mythical white-christian-male
class is easily less than 50% of the population.  The next
misconception is that empowerment is a property of the class - that
somehow being a ``member'' of the empowered class provides one with
those rights and privileges.

The oppressive class must constantly risk rebellion or revolution
by the class which they are presently oppressing.  For a current
example of this behavior, I suggest you study Isreal or South Africa.
--
[1] The legal theory is, I believe, called ``Assumed Risk'' and
    relates to situations whereby a reasonable man would have
    been aware the risk existed but chose to accept that risk.
    The only defense would be to argue you are too dumb to have
    realized that the risk existed, since one can obviously see
    that offensive material is present.
    
    The only other avenue would be that posting offensive jokes is
    in some way illegal, and I think we know what is wrong with
    that approach already.
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