Xref: utzoo soc.culture.jewish:8372 news.misc:2101 news.groups:6359 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ukma!rutgers!ucsd!ucbvax!agate!violet.berkeley.edu!skyler From: skyler@violet.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,news.misc,news.groups Subject: A Historical Point about Anti-Semitism Message-ID: <17452@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 27 Nov 88 20:35:16 GMT Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: skyler@violet.berkeley.edu () Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 36 Some have argued that the questionable joke should be taken very seriously because attitudes like those expressed in the joke were the cause of/same as those which resulted in/caused the Holocaust. An interesting point, but not very well-founded. Nazis believed they had to remove certain kinds of dangerous genes from the gene polls--genes which were supposedly associated with criminality. Based on Spencer, Lombroso, and other "Darwinists" (their reading of Darwin was, I would argue, questionable) they argued that crime resulted from atavism. Negroes, Jews, Gypsies, and other carried these atavistic genes. Hence, the way to wipe out crime was to wipe out those genes. In short, if that joke should worry anyone, it's the Scots, since it presents the Scot as the murderer. Pogroms were carried out in Eastern Europe on the basis of the idea that Jews had murdered Jesus, sacrificed Christian boys at Passoch, and other basically religious/superstitious notions. The Western Europe equivalent of pogroms happened when royalty owed too much money to Jewish bankers and was usually justified on religious grounds--usury is banned by the Bible. Proponents also used the standard relgious myths when handy. The Nazis found the stereotype of Jews as powerful, rich, and immoral useful in their programs. But it was not simply that Jews were supposed to be cheap, but that they were wealthy, and they were using their wealth for criminal ends--they had a conspiracy going. I think that the history of racism is fascinating--and that people should be well aware of it. _The MIsmeasure of Man_ is good, but about the only recent work on Lombroso--otherwise you have to read the primaries. -Trish skyler@ecsvax.uncecs.edu