Xref: utzoo news.sysadmin:1437 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:5334 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!mit-eddie!bloom-beacon!oberon!orion.cf.uci.edu!ucsd!ucsbcsl!hbo@sbphy.ucsb.edu From: hbo@sbphy.ucsb.edu (Howard B. Owen) Newsgroups: news.sysadmin,comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: "Morris did it"--the new excuse? Message-ID: <978@hub.ucsb.edu> Date: 13 Nov 88 23:39:38 GMT Sender: news@hub.ucsb.edu Organization: UC, Santa Barbara. Physics Computer Services Lines: 20 In article <16915@agate.BERKELEY.EDU>, weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (Obnoxious Math Grad Student) writes... > ... I've never worked assuming that the machines I use >are 100% reliable. Do the scientists/researchers at your site do so-- >even on critical stuff? ... Scientists at my site know that computers and networks go up and down. Nevertheless, they tend to depend on both to get their work done. One group here does a lot of montecarlo type work. They use Cray time at SDSC. If the internet link is down, their work stops. Without supercomputers, and the high speed networks to connect them, a lot of physics research simply wouldn't happen. It doesn't matter that computers aren't 100% reliable; they are the only tool for the job. While I agree with the idea that tool reliability should be carefully considered when undertaking a job, I don't think failure to do so contributed greatly to the damage done by the recent unpleasantness. The blame for lost computer time and disrupted research lies not with unreasonable expectations on the part of users, but with the originator of the worm.