Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!mailrus!cwjcc!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!osu-cis!att!ihlpf!jimf From: jimf@ihlpf.ATT.COM (YES) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Hunting Message-ID: <6641@ihlpf.ATT.COM> Date: 15 Nov 88 15:15:54 GMT Organization: NO Lines: 33 Certainly there are a lot of irresponsible idiots with guns (some of them on the police force). In Illinois, hunters must attend hunter safety seminars to get permits to hunt on some state hunting areas - I assume these also talk about legal hunting, littering, etc. but I don't know since I've never attended one. It would be a good idea if all hunters had to attend one of these every few years and pass a test (like driver's license) but the expense would be great. But a ban on hunting would be a wildlife disaster in that much of the money for habitat - not just wetlands - comes from hunting licenses. If you think most state legislatures are going to shell out big bucks year after year for habitat for songbirds unless it's a state park or otherwise has some economic benefit, you're nuts. That money comes from hunter fees and conservation groups. I've noticed in Illinois a trend toward commercializing state parks to generate income. (Building swimming pools, resorts, etc) I believe the pressure on administrators to hold down conservation costs and generate income will only get more intense in the future. If hunting were banned (which it won't be), states would start selling off wildlife preserves, state forests etc in a hurry (much like Raygun has done with federal lands) because a major source of income for the conservation departments would be gone. In farm states like Illinois and Iowa, the real villain as far as wildlife is concerned is intensive agriculture. For some reason, a lot of farmers have an irresistible impulse to chop down every tree in sight, clean out every fencerow, clear cut every river bottom woods so they can plant a crop on it that gets flooded out every Spring, mow every roadside, etc, etc. I guess I don't understand the logic of removing a fencerow to get 3 more rows of corn when the price corn brings barely pays for the cost of planting it. Removing all the fencrerows increases soil erosion, destroys wildlife, etc. Many hunting groups are working to get farmers to leave more land untilled, to leave roadsides unmowed, etc. In Northern Illinois, a group called Pheasants Forever actually pays farmers to let some of their land grow wild. Hunters are, for whatever reasons, the Major conservation group in this country.