Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcvax!cernvax!jon From: jon@cernvax.UUCP (jon) Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle Subject: "Beyond the Energia crisis" Keywords: Soviet/American shuttle comparison Message-ID: <880@cernvax.UUCP> Date: 15 Nov 88 20:05:29 GMT Organization: CERN, Geneva, Switzerland Lines: 96 This is a resume of an article which appeared in the English newspaper The Guardian on Tuesday 15th November 1988. It was written by David Whitehouse but the article does not give any further information about him. Mr Whitehouse believes that the Soviet shuttle is a planned copy of the American shuttle and goes on to give his reasons. He starts with a brief history of the Soviet space program. One thing I found curious was claim about the demise of the Soviet moon project. "The superbooster designed to put a Russian on the Moon first didn't work. A damage-limitation exercise was started. They didn't want to go to the Moon they said. What they intended to do along was to build space stations. Curiously the West believed them." This is the first time I have heard that the Russian ever had serious plans to land a man on the moon. Is it true? On the design of "shuttleski" he says "In the early Seventies many in the USSR weren't convinced that the US shuttle would work. But they decided they dare not take the risk, so the USSR had to have one too." "The shuttle design effort was centered at Ramenskoye airfield, south-east of Moscow. It had the best wind tunnel and computing facilities in the country. It was also secure. Work was spread between almost all the major design teams, the Korolev team, the Glushko Bureau and the Moscow Aviation Institute. Just as NASA had done a few years before, they went over ever possible design and variation of the space shuttle and decided they could not build any of them." "They knew that their technology was inferior to that of the US but they had kept up making better use of the technology they had. Now there was the possibility that the gap between them would be just too great. There was only one possible course of action." "There is an office at Ramenskoye whose job it was to obtain all NASA documents, reports, evaluations and photographs of their shuttle. With such freely available, high quality data, the decision was made to use it to build a Soviet space shuttle that looked almost exactly like the US one. Billions of roubles, many years and much face would be saved." "But there were three major problems. The computers available in the USSR weren't up to the job of controlling the shuttle; they lacked the technology to make fused silica material used to protect the outside of the US shuttle from heat; and they couldn't build a re-usable rocket motor of the power and reliability of the three US shuttle main engines." "The answer to these problems was to abandon the idea of having re-usable rockets on the shuttle and place them on the booster that takes the shuttle into orbit. This has some design advantages but economy isn't one of them. The computer problem had to be tolerated in the hope that a major internal effort to improve the quality and reliability of Soviet computers would be adequate. The insulation problem was solved by obtaining data on how the US made the shuttle tiles - and eventually a sample." He then goes on to describe the Soviet shuttle as it is now, this is well known to readers of this newsgroup so I won't repeat it. He finishes off as follows - "And so today, as it heads for orbit for the first time, there will be much jubilation in the USSR. But there will be other emotions." "Some will worry that it smacks a little too much of prestige and not enough of function - a combination that lost them the Moon. Others will say that they have now got a shuttle like the Americans which makes them level and level is the worst possible position they will allow. Yet others will wonder what use they can make of this vehicle now that they've got it. They've never been in that position before but this is the type of problem the Soviets are good at solving." What I was left wondering after reading this article is, who is Mr Whitehouse (A fictitious name maybe :-)), and where did he get all his information. The whole article smacks of sour grapes to me. Anyway I've just seen the launch itself on Swiss TV ... well I didn't see the shuttle clear the launch tower, just a lot of smoke. Then a quick switch to the control room, then another switch to the shuttle gliding into land. As the Swiss commentator said, they may be able to launch a shuttle like NASA, but they don't how to produce good news coverage of it. Did anyone see anything more than this? I mean the shuttle we saw landing might not be the same one. :-) *----------------------------------------------------------------------* | | | Jon Caves UUCP - {uunet,...}!mcvax!cernvax!jon | | Division DD, EAN - jon@priam | | CERN CH-1211, EARN/BITNET - jon@cernvax | | Geneva 23, JANET - caves@cern.cernvm | | Switzerland. | | | *----------------------------------------------------------------------*