Xref: utzoo sci.space:8246 sci.space.shuttle:1968 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!dasys1!tneff From: tneff@dasys1.UUCP (Tom Neff) Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.space.shuttle Subject: Re: space news from Sept 12 AW&ST Message-ID: <7734@dasys1.UUCP> Date: 16 Nov 88 18:17:26 GMT References: <1988Nov4.065730.10761@utzoo.uucp> <7594@dasys1.UUCP> <1988Nov14.214139.1892@utzoo.uucp> Reply-To: tneff@dasys1.UUCP (Tom Neff) Organization: Independent Users Guild Lines: 30 In article <1988Nov14.214139.1892@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: -In article <7594@dasys1.UUCP> tneff@dasys1.UUCP (Tom Neff) writes: ->Very easy to bash Thiokol after the fact, but remember it was Thiokol ->engineers protesting the decision to launch Challenger and NASA's ->mid-level managers browbeating the vendor into going along... - -And Thiokol managers who ultimately made the decision to ignore the -engineers and tell the customer what he wanted to hear. Don't forget, -what NASA eventually heard was not "well, we disagree but we'll go -along", it was "we've reconsidered and now see no problem". NASA is -hardly blameless for the pressure it applied, but it was Thiokol, not -NASA, that ultimately decided to ignore the problem. Would NASA have -gone ahead if Thiokol had stuck to its guns? Impossible to be sure, -but I don't think so. - -Being honorable under pressure is difficult, yes. It's ever so much -simpler to take the easy way out and say "I vas chust following orders". Thiokol was concurrently negotiating a contract renewal. The pressure to "go along" under those circumstances is unbearable. Also note that Rockwell had doubts and withdrew them (although the decision process was quite controversial). Until and unless we put every contractor in the excruciating position Thiokol was in and compare their performance, I consider it unfair to single out Thiokol for not dealing well with improper NASA pressure. -- Tom Neff UUCP: ...!cmcl2!phri!dasys1!tneff "None of your toys CIS: 76556,2536 MCI: TNEFF will function..." GEnie: TOMNEFF BIX: t.neff (no kidding)