Newsgroups: tor.general Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!csri.toronto.edu!hofbauer From: hofbauer@csri.toronto.edu (John Hofbauer) Subject: Re: Phantom subway station? Message-ID: <8811250104.AA16480@esplanade.csri.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, CSRI References: <1636@maccs.McMaster.CA> Distribution: tor Date: Thu, 24 Nov 88 20:04:00 EST >According to a story I heard the other day, there is supposedly a >phantom subway station in Toronto. > >According to this story (which is thirdhand information, according to a >friend of a friend of a friend who was a friend of a TTC inspector), >there is a shiny new subway station somewhere below the city, with about >500 m of dead-end track leading from it. The funding to complete it >supposedly ran out, but this station may yet someday come into service. There are "phantom" stations under Queen, Bay and Donlands. As has been pointed out in other articles, an east-west platform was roughed in at Queen in anticipation of an east-west line along Queen. Remember that this was planned in the late 1940s and, well, things change over time and so when it came to building an east-west line Bloor-Danforth was a more sensible choice. Some trivia: The subway platform of the Prince Edward Viaduct (the bridge across the Don Valley which connects Bloor to the Danforth) was included when the viaduct was built in 1916. The architects decided that Toronto would one day get a subway and that it might pass over the Don Valley. Fifty years later it did. There is a complete station under Bay, similar to St. George. This was the result of one of the great TTC planning debacles! A bit of history: the University extension from Union to St. George opened in 1963. When the Bloor line opened in 1966 the two lines were fully integrated by the great Y interchange, Museum, St. George and Bay (think about it, they form a Y shape). Yonge-University trains would alternately run east and west along the Bloor line, and every other Bloor train would run downtown. That way you could travel anywhere in the system without ever having to change trains. The drawback was that you might have to let one train go by, and you might have to go around the "hump" ( as I call it) -- Union Station. For the first 6 months the TTC tested this fully integrated system, then for the next 6 months they tried a completely disconnected system it see which worked best. Well, except for those first 6 months the lower Bay station has not seen a soul other than TTC employees. The University line cost $43 million (early 1960 dollars) and the Y cost $14 million. The University line was so underused that for many years it was shut down after 8pm. I'm convinced they built the Spadina line just to retroactively justify the University line. Next time you travel westbound along Bloor look out the front window of the train as you leave Yonge. For a moment you will see the lights from the lower Bay station. Similarly as you travel north from Museum, look for the tunnel that leads off to Bay. Also between St. George and Spadina look for where the tracks merge. Great fun. Donlands has a roughed-in station in anticipation of a subway running north up the Don Valley. The Network 2011 plan proposes this to be one end of the great downtown relief line to Union Station. Grrr. The TTC is run by a bunch of idiots, but I won't launch into my usual flamefest... Last year the City of Toronto Archives through their Market Gallery (at the St. Lawrence Market) had a most interesting display on the history of the TTC. Some of the plans for subways over the years are positively hilarious. The aforementioned subway plation on the Bloor viaduct came about because while the TTC held a monopoly for for surface public transit, underground was a free-for-all, sooo... somebody got the bright idea of putting streetcars underground. It never got anywhere. I encourage anyone interested in Toronto history to visit the Market Gallery. The current display is on housing in Toronto.