Xref: utzoo comp.ai:2919 talk.philosophy.misc:1743 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ncrlnk!ncrcae!ece-csc!mcnc!rti!xyzzy!throopw From: throopw@xyzzy.UUCP (Wayne A. Throop) Newsgroups: comp.ai,talk.philosophy.misc Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence and Intelligence Message-ID: <2415@xyzzy.UUCP> Date: 16 Dec 88 16:23:55 GMT References: <562@metapsy.UUCP> <2732@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> <563@metapsy.UUCP> <1841@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU> <1736@sjuvax.UUCP> Organization: Data General, RTP NC. Lines: 19 > tmoody@sjuvax.UUCP (T. Moody) > If you don't understand "machine" > in a way that lets you distinguish between, say, trees and clocks, then > you are taking this word on a long holiday. This is a little unclear to me. Do you mean that not to place a boundary on the definition of "machine" between trees and clocks is wrong-headed, or do you mean that the definition of machine must be segmented in such a way that a boundary (of what fuzziness?) must exist between trees and clocks? But question: *Is* there any difference in the way trees and clocks operate (except for the obvious difference in complexity)? And further: what about between trees and humans? -- The real problem is not whether machines think, but whether men do. --- B.F. Skinner -- Wayne Throop !mcnc!rti!xyzzy!throopw