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From: matloff@bizet.Berkeley.EDU (Norman Matloff)
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Subject: Re: Student and Course Integrity  (was Rising cost of textbooks)
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Date: 10 Dec 88 06:27:35 GMT
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In article <18107@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> c60a-2di@e260-4b.berkeley.edu (The Cybermat Rider) writes:

>There have been rumors (note that - RUMORS!!!) circulating amongst
>Singaporean students that some American universities plan to impose quota
>restrictions against foreign students.  If this is true (I hope FOR ALL OUR
>SAKES it isn't), 

Adrian, UC already has such restrictions.  NOW NOTE CAREFULLY THAT WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT ***FOREIGN*** STUDENTS, NOT NON-WHITE AMERICANS.

Here at UC Davis, there is a restriction of 25% for FOREIGN engineering
students, though the administration lets this slide to about 35%.  There
is a similar restriction at UCB; I don't know the numerics of it, but I
do know that they have been giving heavy preference to domestic students
in the last 2 years.

Again, this is for FOREIGN students.  It does NOT apply to U.S. citizens
or permanent residents.  Even someone with a newly minted green card is
classified as domestic.  Any brand-new immigrant, whether from Hong Kong,
China, Taiwan, Singapore or wherever, is classified as domestic, and does
not get subjected to the above quotas.

UC is a state institution.  The legislature held hearings about 3 years
ago, and felt that the proportion of foreign students was too high for
an institution supported by tax monies.  I felt this was shortsighted
(I even called the Legislative Analyst about it), because almost all
the foreign engineering students get hired by U.S. companies and become
(taxpaying Americans), but I think the legislature does have a point.

   Norm