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From: elm@ernie.Berkeley.EDU (ethan miller)
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Subject: Re: Student and Course Integrity
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Date: 11 Dec 88 20:47:13 GMT
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In article <5653@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU> liu@beowulf.UCSD.EDU (Hai-Ning Liu) writes:
->In article <18144@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> matloff@iris.ucdavis.edu (Norm Matloff) writes:
->>In article <1060@l.cc.purdue.edu> cik@l.cc.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
->>
->>Adrian Ho had said that there is a rumor in Singapore that some American
->>universities have quotas for foreign students.  Herman and I both said
->>that such quotas exist at our schools (Purdue and UC Davis).  [Again, I 
->>must emphasize that these are quotas limiting numbers of foreign students, 
->>not limiting the number of non-white American students.]
->>
->>I agree.  The schools we are talking about are tax-supported institutions;
->>this is why the quotas are imposed.  As far as I know, the private
->>universities have no such quotas. 
->>
->>    Norm
->
->Ok, how do you explain the "nondiscrimination statemant" appears
->in every application form? I quota part here:
->
->       The Uninversity of Calfornia, in compliance with Title VI of the
->Civil Rights Act of 1964, Title IX of the Education
->Amendments of 1972, Section 504 of Rehabilitation Act of 1973, and the
->Age Discrimination Act of 1975, does not discriminate on the
->basis of race , color, NATIONAL ORIGIN, sex , handicap, or practices
->nordoes the university discriminate on the basis of sexual origin
->orinentation. This nondiscrimination policy covers admission and
->access to , andtreatment and employment in, university programs ...
->
->When it comes to talk about nondiscrimination stuff, I find
->most admistors slap their own faces.
->
->--liu
->
->haining liu
->CSE UCSD

National origin refers to where a person's ancestors are from.  They don't
care whether you were originally Hawaiian, Japanese, English, or African.
They DO care whether you are currently a legal CA resident.  It's much
harder to get into UC as an undergraduate if you are out of state (and thus
out of country).  Nothing wrong with that, since the university is tax-
supported, and those who don't live in CA don't contribute to the tax.
This is similar to companies that require US citizenship to work.  Many
of them are doing classified work, and you must be a citizen for certain
types of classification.  Are they discriminating?  NO.  Requiring US
residence is legal since anyone can become a US residence (not necessarily
everyone, but definitely anyone).

ethan
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