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From: dross@umn-d-ub.D.UMN.EDU (david ross)
Newsgroups: comp.edu,sci.math,sci.physics
Subject: Re: Student and Course Integrity  (was Rising cost of textbooks)
Keywords: fantasy about student years of yore
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Date: 12 Dec 88 19:46:11 GMT
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In article <6388@killer.DALLAS.TX.US> elg@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Eric Green) writes:
>
>Note that the average student of today is NOT the average student of
>20 years ago.

Quite right.  Reagan cuts aside, today's students have access to *many* more
sources of support than did those of 1968.

>The days when students were all between 18 and
>21, all lived in dorms, and all could attend activities on campus at
>any time, are long since gone.

In fact, they never existed.

Many of my students do work hours that conflict with my office hours; I
try to accomodate them as much as possible.  However, if a student
needs help, can't make my scheduled office hours, can't work out an alternate
time convenient to us both for outside help, then does badly in class, 
I feel sad but not sorry for the student: he or she has clearly made some
prioritizing decision, in which math lost out, and must accept the
consequences.
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