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From: matloff@bizet.Berkeley.EDU (Norman Matloff)
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Subject: Re: Student and Course Integrity  (was Rising cost of textbooks)
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Date: 14 Dec 88 03:58:08 GMT
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In article <26@sierra.stanford.edu> siegman@sierra.UUCP (Anthony E. Siegman) writes:
>The Electrical Engineering Department at Stanford, which takes in a very
>large group of new MS candidates (about 200) each Autumn, controls its
>admission process to limit foreign students to about 20% of that group.

>This seems to us a reasonable compromise between all the conflicting
>factors [industrial supporters who charge we're devoting our resources
>to foreign students at the expense of U.S. candidates, 

That's amazing, because the people in industry are the ones who are
attracting the students to the U.S. in the first place, because the
industry people are so willing to sponsor the foreign students for
immigration.  I'm not saying this is necessarily a bad thing, but
it's certainly strange for INDUSTRY to be saying this.

>we're brain-draining overseas countries,

Of course, this is quite true.

    Norm