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From: jim@nih-csl.UUCP (jim sullivan)
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Subject: Re: Student and Course Integrity
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Date: 14 Dec 88 15:22:49 GMT
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In article <859@quintus.UUCP> ok@quintus.UUCP (Richard A. O'Keefe) writes:
>In article <4362@Portia.Stanford.EDU> zimm@Portia.stanford.edu (Dylan Yolles) writes:
>>The fact that he actually *posted* the results is despicable,
>>though--he shouldn't have carried through with his promise.
>
>I still don't understand this.  WHY would it be despicable?
>I have been in this country for nearly 4 years now, and have never felt
>so alien:  I honestly do not see why anyone would object to this.
>Marks are not a private matter between two individuals; at best they are
>a matter between the student and the University, and dozens of the staff
>may need to know.  Parents have always seen children's report cards, what's
>the big deal about marks at a University?

	Having watched this discussion go on, and on, and on,
	I couldn't help but jump in.  The difference in attitude
	toward college grades, I feel, is reflected in the view
	of the role of colleges and universities.  In Europe,
	the college is there to mold you.  It is similiar to
	the idea that the army makes you into an adult.  In the
	U.S., the attitude is a little different in that one
	feels (s)he is paying for a service, just like buying
	a house or a car.  Thus, americans feel that they have
	control over anything they are paying for at a college,
	including their records.



jim