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From: vixie@decwrl.dec.com (Paul A Vixie)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Another example why not to re-route
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Date: 14 Dec 88 14:57:01 GMT
References: <321@aber-cs.UUCP> <370@lakart.UUCP> <174@jetson.UPMA.MD.US>
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In-reply-to: john@jetson.UPMA.MD.US's message of 13 Dec 88 14:51:38 GMT

[Owens]
# As a practical example, I've received a couple of failed mail messages
# intended for a site named "jetson" in West Germany.  The failure
# message was sent from (if I remember correctly)
#	ifistg!MAILER-DAEMON
# to
#	unido!somewhere!jetson!user
# Someone, perhaps unido, did "peeking" and sent it to the jetson in the
# maps (me), causing two transatlantic crossings (one for the original
# failure message and one for my failure message back to the
# MAILER-DAEMON).

Unido's policy is to reroute based on the facts that (a) they have to pay
lots of money for the transatlanctic crossings -- and in fact they charge
this back to other German sites, and (b) the German namespace is totally
controlled and there can be no duplicate host names.  Though why they
reroute things bound for non-German sites and send them to other non-German
sites, I cannot fathom.

<pcsbst!jkh> was trying to send mail to <unido!uunet!vixie!smegma!mdg> for a
while, but since unido insisted on sending it to <uunet!ames!uport!smegma!mdg>
and because <uport!smegma!> was down and <uport!portmaster> was brain dead, we
finally solved it by changing <smegma> to <noe> and creating <pctbst!pyramid!>.

I have a message for those of you who think you know a better route.  But I
cannot repeat it in polite company.  If the postmaster of unido would like to
speak to me in person, I will be in Germany from 16-December to 5-January;
send mail to <pcsbst!jkh> to arrange an appointment.

--
Paul Vixie
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