Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!ncar!gatech!hubcap!eos!eugene From: eos!eugene@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Eugene Miya) Newsgroups: comp.parallel Subject: Re: System: North America [a massively parallel PD computer?] Message-ID: <3896@hubcap.UUCP> Date: 14 Dec 88 21:24:49 GMT Sender: fpst@hubcap.UUCP Lines: 29 Approved: parallel@hubcap.clemson.edu Distributed applications Proposals like this are made all the time, I first heard them in 1973. I actually saw my first distributed application in 1979 (Alto/Ethernet based). So they predate Brunner's Sci Fi story years. Please consult Schoch and Hupp's CACM paper [1982?] on worm programs. The technical problems: poor programming language constructs for communications and data protection. It has full amazed me that for all the Crays LLNL has, with a fairly decent network, no one wrote multi-Cray applications. The effort is too great for so little return (improvement). To date the best example was the recent factoring of a 100 decimal digit number (See Factoring by Email, done at DECWRL). The best application I've heard was from a fellow at a cable TV company. They have 10,000 68K in switching system around the US. On the day of the Superbowl when switching is at a minimum, down load a redundant program to make the system "the most powerful chess in the world." The real problem isn't technical, the problem is social. Machines are regarded as personal property, not a commons. What business is your program running on my machine? It's an idea who's time will come. Another gross generalization from --eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@aurora.arc.nasa.gov resident cynic at the Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers: "Mailers?! HA!", "If my mail does not reach you, please accept my apology." {uunet,hplabs,ncar,decwrl,allegra,tektronix}!ames!aurora!eugene "Send mail, avoid follow-ups. If enough, I'll summarize."