Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!ncar!boulder!sunybcs!bingvaxu!leah!jac423 From: jac423@leah.Albany.Edu (Julius A Cisek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Software development and piracy ... Summary: Oh my... Message-ID: <1379@leah.Albany.Edu> Date: 15 Dec 88 03:18:40 GMT References: <2149@nunki.usc.edu> <3889@hubcap.UUCP> Organization: The University at Albany, Computer Services Center Lines: 93 In article <3889@hubcap.UUCP>, disd@hubcap.UUCP (Gary Heffelfinger) writes: > And I hate the games that force me to reboot after every use. I'm not > using a C64 anymore. Take a look at Omnitrend's Paladin. This is an > example of a well done game that uses the system correctly. It is > pretty, it uses a word lookup form of protection that is done once at > the start of the game, it does not need to take over my machine, and it > runs very well on my hard disk. I am much more likely to play it than > any game which forces me to reboot. Personally I like games that entertain me... Paladin is a product of a poor imagination and classroom programming, there's nothing special about it. The game play is a drag. You cannot possibly compare it to Dungeon Master. So DM takes over the machine, big deal. It's a great game, and that's what matters to me. Have you seen it? > Sail close to the wind. Why must a programmer be sloppy and > inconsiderate of his users to "sail close to the wind?" You're telling me that Jez San who wrote Starglider II is a sloppy programmer? Ha! Lets see you do three dimentional (filled!) graphix that move like that! > > Like having a porcshe but being told to drive at 55 on the freeway ? (who > > does ?) > I look at it more like having a Porsche when I need it, or having two > Hyundai Excels when I need them, or having 3 pickup trucks when I need > them. You get the idea. (Or do you?) I'd say you need a Porsche with things like DM, Dragon's Lair, and Starglider II. These programs are not Amoeba, you know... > > a software booting with a fast loading hires picture and playing some > > funky piece of music will ALWAYS grab my attention. > What's to stop you? This is the nature of multitasking. I've seen this > done before, and rules were not broken in the process. This I'm not sure on (does the Amiga handle this?), but unless a sample takes over the system momentarily, it will certainly not work. (It has to be, after all, a continuous, regular flow of data). So games which use sampled scores and sounds throughout would have to take the system over anyway. (I may be wrong, the sound chip may take care of the rates, so please correct me if you know.) > > Remember, not all amiga users are developpers (or usenet type of users). > > they are the minority. > True, but neither are they all 13 year old boys who go "ooooh" and "ahhhhh" > over the latest "rully rad" game. Some are developers and like good games too... Besides, DM too me is more than "rad". It's a marvel and a breakthrough in design. Same applies to Starglider II. > As more Amiga users get hard disks, (and they will) fewer and fewer > people will be willing to put up with the rebooting after every > application nonsense. Speak for yourself. I don't mind waiting a minute or two. It's not going to ruin my life... :-) > If you throw out the OS, how is your program going to know about my > hard disk? And even if you can find my hard disk, do I want you f*cking > with it, and the rest of the data on it, by using your "under the table" > means? This is true. I would certainly not trust such a deal with my data. > > reward for pirate busting ? > > well after he had denounced some name, the snitch will be on the hit list , > > unable to get on any "GOOD" bbs. and treated like SH*T by other fellow > > bbs'er (hate mail etc...) I don't understand the point here. What the heck is a "GOOD" bbs to this guy? :-) > > Technology gave us the means, so use it ! and even better ABUSE it ! > I'm not even going to touch this one, lest I burst a blood vessel in my > brain. Me neither. Sometimes I feel like I'm on the wrong side here... :-) To close, I see all the points people have made about how it would be nice if some of these programs lived with the multi-tasking environment, blah blah, blah blah blah... What got me a little peeved was the fact that several of these people were using these arguments to rationalize piracy (hypocrits! A copied or cracked version will STILL take over your system, in 99% of the cases); others have never even SEEN the games they are flaming (maybe they'd change their minds.) To me its the GAME that matters. Does it entertain me? Does it enthrall me? Who cares if it takes over my machine. I'm sure that the three games (not Paladin, yuck) I mentioned here make good use of it. -- What about technology, computers, .------------------. J.A.Cisek nuclear fusion? I'm terrified of |Spectral Fantasies| jac423@leah.albany.edu radiation, I hate the television. `------------------' jac423@rachel.albany.edu