Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!sunybcs!jmpiazza From: jmpiazza@sunybcs.uucp (Joseph M. Piazza) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Death of the 1000 (was: Re: Transactor, Vol 1 Issue 3) Message-ID: <3363@cs.Buffalo.EDU> Date: 20 Dec 88 19:14:42 GMT References: <12713@cup.portal.com> <420@solaria.csun.edu> Sender: nobody@cs.Buffalo.EDU Reply-To: jmpiazza@sunybcs.UUCP (Joseph M. Piazza) Distribution: na Organization: SUNY/Buffalo Computer Science Lines: 83 In article <420@solaria.csun.edu> ecphssrw@solaria.csun.edu (Stephen R. Walton) writes: >In article >armhold@topaz.rutgers.edu (George Armhold) writes: >>Regarding the 'killing off' of 1000's: >>TRUE! There are many 1000 owners out there who will not fork over the >>$$ for a 2000! How about "can't fork over?" >Yes, but it also seems to be true that not many 1000 owners want to >upgrade their existing machine either, judging by the underwhelming >support ASDG got for their 2000-and-1 quasi-announcement. > >This was where ASDG sent out several thousand flyers as well as >a USENET announcement saying, "We're ready to produce the 2000-and-1 >if we can sell enough of them. Send a $100 refundable deposit now and >if we get enough checks we'll produce." They got something like 10% of >the required number of deposits. The amiga.racks subtopic of the asdg >topic on BIX has vanished. Considering the cost of the beastie: [ a "no-risk" $100 deposit, will be able to purchase the 2000-and-1 at $799 [instead of its slated $899 list price) [From: cheung@vu-vlsi.Villanova.EDU (Wilson Cheung) it's seems to me that you may as well buy a 2000 and gain the Video slot and new custom chip set. >I fear that the truth is, if you want significant expandability, you'll have >to get a 2000. That's the problem: there isn't a MODEST expansion box available for the 1000. I would have been quite happy (about six months ago) with a two or three Zorro II slot box that could power a hard disk and let me transfer the controller and drive to a 2000 in the future AND cost only $300 or so. The closest product I've found is the SubSystem 1000 from Pacific Peripherals but it is STILL not available. And when I consider that my local Amiga shop doesn't carry the SubSystem 500 because it is, shall we say, "fragile," forget it. > And yes, I put my money where my mouth is: I took the $$ I saved >last summer for an A1000 hard disk and replaced it with a 2000 instead. >I'm not sorry, though I'm still hard-disk-less. I did the same thing. But since I'm a real person (i.e., no longer a student; now I work for a living :-) I'll scrape up enough bucks for the hard disk in a relatively short time. I still own my 1000 though so I can still look forward to a 1000 expansion box but I'm not holding my breath. I would like to see a discussion of expansion boxes: are they too difficult to make? Would the basic machine (e.g., an Amiga 500) need to be significantly redesigned to accommodate such an expansion? (a few Zorro slots, CPU slot, maybe a video slot). That is, would it be more conceivable to design: * an Amiga 1100 that has a CPU and a Video slot and offer an expansion box that has Zorro II slots and two or three drive bays? OR * an Amiga 1200 which has three or four Zorro II slots, no PC slots, and a CPU and a Video slot, and one or two drive bays? Personally, I'd love the 1200 machine, yet the 1100 would be great for tighter budgets like like families and college students. Flip side, joe piazza --- In capitalism, man exploits man. In communism, it's the other way around. CS Dept. SUNY at Buffalo 14260 UUCP: ..!{ames,boulder,decvax,rutgers}!sunybcs!jmpiazza GEnie:jmpiazza BITNET: jmpiazza@sunybcs.BITNET Internet: jmpiazza@cs.Buffalo.edu >Stephen Walton, RCKG01M@CALSTATE.BITNET ecphssrw@afws.csun.edu >swalton@solar.stanford.edu ...!csun!afws.csun.edu!bcphssrw