Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!hi-csc!giebelhaus
From: giebelhaus@hi-csc.UUCP (Timothy R. Giebelhaus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: why no native unix??
Keywords: just asking
Message-ID: <404beb83.b263@hi-csc.UUCP>
Date: 16 Dec 88 21:48:00 GMT
References: <18@draci.cs.uow.oz> <3ff525ae.14df5@ulsoy.engin.umich.edu> <1270@fai.UUCP>
Reply-To: giebelhaus@hi-csc.UUCP (Timothy R. Giebelhaus)
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In article <1270@fai.UUCP> ronc@fai.fai.com (Ronald O. Christian) writes:
>
>That's great for you, but we already have entirely too many dissimilar
>versions of Unix around here, and can't afford to add complexity by
>requiring our users (and administrator -- that's me!) to learn Aegis
>as well.
>
>We (still) have a couple Domain 3000's laying around -- no one wants
>to use 'em, because no one wants to learn Yet Another Operating System.
>
>The Apollo is a pretty box, and someday when they offer native Unix,
>we will definitely be interested.

I have great news.  You don't have to learn another operating system
to use the Apollos.  As mentioned here before, you can not load up
Aegis at all if you do not want to.

*** I personally would load up the Aegis, though.  Not because the
DOMAIN/OS UNIX is incomplete, but because I don't see are reason
to deny myself all the extra tools Aegis provides the UNIX user.
Of course I am careful not put put these tools into things I am
going to ship to a non-Apollo shop, but for day to day work, they
do add a significant amount of functionality.

I still have only seen one native bsd4.3.  That is the one on the
Berkley tape.  Everyone else changes UNIX.  It is some major piece
of marketing that can convince people that one vendor's box is 
"real" UNIX and that their competitor's box is some hack placed 
upon the propietary operating system that they would much rather
sell because the competitor's only interest is to cheat the 
customer out of their hard earned money.

The second someone says Apollo is not open or that Apollo does not
have a real UNIX, you should be suspicious.  You should contact
Apollo and judge for yourself.  I personally never believe a single
piece of negative sales information until I have checked it out.

In summary, I would take those DN3000's and load SR10.0 on them.
You will not find inodes, but the transparent file system should
more than make up for it.  You will also find a registry system
where Sun puts yellow pages (roughly speaking).  The registry system
should also make things much easier than if it were not there.








































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Tim Giebelhaus, Apollo Computer, Regional Software Support Specialist.
My comments and opinions have nothing to do with work.