Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!mit-eddie!bu-cs!purdue!decwrl!sun!pitstop!sundc!seismo!uunet!mcvax!enea!kth!draken!tut!tatti!moj From: moj@tatti.utu.fi (Matti Jokinen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: DN 10000 Message-ID: <146@tatti.utu.fi> Date: 18 Dec 88 21:44:15 GMT Organization: University of Turku, Finland Lines: 26 > We are considering buying an Apollo DN10000 workstation. > Would anyone out there have anything enlightening to say > about these machines, for instance what are their advantages > over Sun Products? Apollo 10000 is primarily a powerful single-user number cruncher; Sun 4 is considerably less specialized. In particular, Apollo 10000 is not a good time-sharing system for several reasons. First, the number of processes is limited to 64 (the limit will be raised to 128 in SR10.1 but that is still not very much). Second, each process reserves reserves about 5 megabytes of disk space for swapping; thus 64 processes would use more than 300 MB. Third, there are no disk quotas. Although the speed of arithmetic operations is impressive and other instructions are pretty fast too, compilers are surprisingly slow. This makes the system less suitable for program development. > One of the things that is slowing our decision down though > is the lack of information we have so far on whether or not > we can set up diskless workstations on an Apollo controlled > network. It should be possible according to the manuals. An executable file can contain code for two different processors (M680xx and PRISM). I don't know how well it works in practice.