Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!b.gp.cs.cmu.edu!ralf From: ralf@b.gp.cs.cmu.edu (Ralf Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Turbo C 2.0, EMS, and style Keywords: Borland International, pricing Message-ID: <3858@pt.cs.cmu.edu> Date: 13 Dec 88 02:46:42 GMT References: <1734@edison.GE.COM> <2298@bucsb.UUCP> Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 34 In article <2298@bucsb.UUCP> composer@bucsb.bu.edu (Jeff Kellem) writes: }But, it is definitely NOT a steal anymore. Especially, with the way }Borland has been heading in pricing and as it always has been with }upgrade prices. ... }But, Borland started out as a good company producing a very good }product for an excellent price (v1.0 of Turbo Pascal was $39.95, if my }memory serves me correctly, for you Borland history buffs) and has }since started leaning towards higher pricing strategies when they're }not necessary. Yes, they're making more money now. But, they could }still be making a lot of money even with lower prices. I won't An important consideration is HOW they're selling the programs. TP 1.0 was $49.95, every penny of which went to Borland since at the time they only sold direct. Nowadays, only about 10% of their business (not counting upgrades, which I'll get back to) is end users buying direct. The rest is dealers, which buy the package wholesale--about 40% of list (ever wondered how mail- order companies can sell software for 50-60% of list?). So Borland actually got LESS on its $100 TP4 than it got on its $50 TP1. The price Borland charges for upgrades seems to be very close to the wholesale price. Even so, I hear that Microsoft upgrades are more expensive than Borland upgrades. You paid about $165* to go from TP1 to TP5. So now you've spent $215 for five complete versions of the compiler. Seems to me MS Pascal was considerably more than $215 at the time, even without the cost of upgrades ($75 each, wasn't it?).... * $35 + $30 + $45 + $55 -- {harvard,uunet,ucbvax}!b.gp.cs.cmu.edu!ralf -=-=- AT&T: (412)268-3053 (school) ARPA: RALF@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU |"Tolerance means excusing the mistakes others make. FIDO: Ralf Brown at 129/31 | Tact means not noticing them." --Arthur Schnitzler BITnet: RALF%B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU@CMUCCVMA -=-=- DISCLAIMER? I claimed something? --